This is not the place to do this discussion.

We need to work on a brochure not fix any Base problems on this thread[s] about the various brochures.

I need a brochure for my local work. If we start talking about problems with LO, that will not get up anywhere.

To be honest, most people I deal with do not use MSO Access, so Base is not an issue.

SO let us work on the text of the brochure. Let us work on the things we can, and let the developers work on the thing they can,


On 05/10/2013 12:39 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
So when people suffer data-loss due to using the internal back-end what is the 
Users List supposed to say?  I guess we just blame it on marketing not knowing 
about a known issue.
Regards from
Tom :)





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From: Jean Weber <[email protected]>
To: Tom Davies <[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, 10 May 2013, 5:21
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Brochure-type: General Information


Tom,
Base works fine for the many users who don't do anything more than dead simple stuff, so 
it's not a "horribly broken nightmare" for most people. Of course, for those 
affected, that's no doubt true.

But give it a rest; by continually carrying on about it on the marketing list 
you accomplish nothing other than annoying people, most of whom can't solve the 
problem anyway.

Marc, I think your phrasing is good. The "also" definitely is appropriate and 
needed.

--Jean

On 10/05/2013, at 14:08, Tom Davies <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi :)
Yes, i took "also" out because when used with the internal back-end Base is a 
horribly broken nightmare.  It's only when used with an external back-end, such as an 
up-to-date untweaked version of HsqlDB (rather than the ancient mangled one inside Base) 
or even better with MySql / MariaDB or PostgreSQL or others that Base really becomes 
quite powerful.

If i was trying to sell a car i wouldn't start the sales-pitch by pointing out 
the flat wheels and rattling exhaust-pipe!
Regards from
Tom :)


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From: Marc Paré <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, 9 May 2013, 21:49
Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Brochure-type: General Information


Sorry for getting back to this so late.

Thanks for the input Italo. I'll change the text. I also like Tom's
version but I think without the "also" it sounds as if Base does not
come as an installed database. If we were to put "also" back in, then
the impression is that Base is an installed database but could also act
as a frontend to the databases you mention.

How about if we had:

"Base is a desktop database designed to meet the needs of most users.
It is a valuable and powerful asset to link to the other LibreOffice
applications.  Base can also be a good front-end to many
enterprise-class databases such as MySql/MariaDB or PostgreSQL."

Would this sound better? I think with the "also" included it clarifies
what Base is all about, but, mentioning the MySql/MariaDB or PostgreSQL
also shows that it is extensible.

Cheers,

Marc


Le 06/05/13 12:00 PM, Tom Davies a écrit :
Hi :)
+1
Perhaps remove "also" as Base is at it's strongest when used as a front-end.  
It seems to be  the default way of using Base and it's much easier to get Base to 
co-operate with that than it is with Access.  So, perhaps


Writer is a full-featured word processing application, which can also
work as a desktop publishing tool. It's simple enough to use for a quick memo, 
but powerful enough to create complete books with contents,
diagrams and indexes. You're free to concentrate on your message, while
Writer will make it look great.

Base is a desktop database
designed to meet the needs of most users.  It is a valuable and powerful
asset to link to the other LibreOffice applications.  Base can  be a good 
front-end to many enterprise-class databases such as MySql/MariaDB or 
PostgreSQL.


Regards from

Tom :)





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From: Italo Vignoli <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, 6 May 2013, 16:30
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Brochure-type: General Information


Il 06/05/2013 17:18, Charles-H. Schulz ha scritto:

Italo?
I would change slightly the Writer text and tone down the Base one.

My proposal:

Writer is a full-featured word processing application, which can also work as a 
desktop publishing tool. It's simple enough to use for a quick memo, but 
powerful enough to create complete books with contents, diagrams and indexes. 
You're free to concentrate on your message, while Writer will make it look 
great.

Base is a desktop database designed to meet the needs of most users. It is a 
valuable and powerful asset to link to the other LibreOffice applications. Base 
can also be used as a front-end to many enterprise-class databases.

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