Hi :) Wrt formats i thought Italo came up with the excellent announcement stating something like "other formats" or "popular formats" or "widely used formats" or "all non-native formats" Grrr, i can't quite remember but it neatly covered pretty much everything and was around the time it had become clear that MS had * dropped support for formats that LO still covered and * had never supported stuff that LO was also happy to read. Regards from Tom :)
>________________________________ > From: Kracked_P_P---webmaster <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Friday, 10 May 2013, 17:04 >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Brochure-type: General Information > > >On 05/10/2013 10:44 AM, Marc Paré wrote: >> Le 10/05/13 09:52 AM, Tom Davies a écrit : >>> Hi :) >>> I was just saying that if you try to sell a used car then pointing at >>> the flat tyres and saying the wheels are great is not likely to >>> result in a good sale. >>> >>> Selling Base for what it is good for shows people how much more >>> advanced and powerful LibreOffice is. >>> >>> Trying to sell Base for what Access is good for (and the 1 thing that >>> Base is bad at) is a bit dismal. It underplays our hand. Why compete >>> with MS when we can change the conversation and by doing so be sooo >>> far ahead. >>> Regards from >>> Tom :) >>> >> >> Tom, >> >> first off, Base is being worked on by at least one dev. Unfortunately, >> it is not an attractive code that invites people to work on. So, one >> of our jobs as marketers is try to attract more competent devs to help >> out with the Base code ... this will be done in our "Developer >> brochure" ... we can at least help the dev group in trying to secure >> devs for the Base module. >> >> Second, we need to stop thinking of LibreOffice competing with MSO. As >> far as we are concerned, we are now the leading, driving, and bleeding >> edge of the office suite development. MSO can now try to follow in our >> footsteps and try to compete with us. We should not be looking at >> ourselves as anything but this. And, no, I am not talking from the >> point of view of Base, but from the point of view of the whole >> LibreOffice project. >> > >There has been at least one article about MS wanting to do a release >cycle like LO does, every few months for the next version of their >different software lines. I think people are getting tired waiting 1 or >2 years for the next update to MSO and their other products. > >Well, LO [and FOSS] has made that "every few months" release plan work. > >As I was told, for the USA, MS is too ingrained in our "lives" to ever >be replaced. Well That mindset has been changed in Europe. Hopefully it >will be in the US. > >SO, no we are not competing against MSO, per say, but we have a free >product that will never cost them to buy/rent/etc. We have the premier >office suite in the open source community, for those who have decided >that looking towards open source might be a good idea over the >proprietary options. The US government is moving towards open source, >so one day they will be looking at an open source office package. > >WE have a product that works on Windows, Mac and Linux. There is a >movement towards an Android version. > >No we are not competing with MSO, we have by passed them and went on to >be the cutting edge office package that introduces new and improved >option every few months, not every few years. > >> Certainly MSO is out there, but we need more of a "forward looking >> philosophy" rather than a "looking over our shoulder" or "competing >> with ..." philosophy. >> >> So, as Tim has pointed out, this is not the place to debate the >> virtues of the Base code. I see on the users' list that some people >> use Base as it is, and, not as a front-end to any other sql-database. >> When they have problems, bugs, we, as LibreOffice members need to >> direct them to the Bugzilla reporting and in time Base will improve. >> But for now, from what I can see, some are using Base with success and >> not complaining about it. >> >> So, as you can read from the text in the brochure, the Base section >> does not mention any "competing with Access" and I would suggest that >> we NOT say that it competes with Access in any of our brochures. >> > >We need to work on this to have some better text better alluding to MSO >formats without saying so. > >"For moreextended interoperability,LibreOffice supports document formats >of many other softwaresuites, from the most current to numerous legacy >formats." > > >Maybe "most current, and popular, to numerous legacy formats" would work. > >I do not want to state MSO file formats, but we do support them to >various degrees. Support for MSO 2013 version of OOXML is not all there >YET, but it will get better over the next few months. Since '07 and '10 >does not completely support '13 OOXML, we do not need to talk about that >either in this brochure. > >> Cheers, >> >> Marc >> >> > > >-- >To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] >Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ >All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
