Lo Again,
 
>>Not at all - who said anything about spontaneously revolutionary?  What we have to do is conscientiously and consciously buoild a mass movement for >>revolution, it won't happen until the working class is willing and conscious for change.  How could we have a succesful revolution with a vanguard?  Make the >>programmers work at gun point?  It would degenerate into tyranny, it cannot work.  the only way the workers can be free is if we consciously free ourselves, >>not have someone lead us to it, or do it for us.  Pace Trotsky, the revoluion is *not* made by teh minority.
 
Dread Lord Deathy.
 
>This is just another way of saying that you dont want social revolution and will therefore doing nothing to advance it. Your >peprspective is nothing but a disguised way of promoting capitalism and maintaining the working class in their present >conditon.
 
Cobblers - I work hard enough towards social revolution, almost continually, and you won't find more vehemently anti-capitalist band than me and my comrades, we've only spent most of our political careers opposing attempts to reform capitalism - our one idea is, after Marx, that we believe that teh social revolution must be made by the workers themselves.
 
I'd prefer evidence advanced rather than ad hominem accusations, maligning my honesty and integrity - call me wrong, but do not call me a liar you fuck, ok?
 
Deathy.

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