Waistline2 Obama as a "uniter" is an interesting Marxist approach.
^^^^^ CB: Marxist as in Workers of all nations and races , unite ! ^^^^^ Perhaps if all of us was raised by a white parent and white grandparents, we too would be "uniters." ^^^^^ CB: Makes sense. It would engender need for unity on a personal level for peace of mind. His mother seems to have taught him Black history type respect for Black people. He seems to have somewhat consciously constructed a Black identity of high integrity. Going to the hood to live, like an anthropologist joining his own culture. Now he's an interesting character. To coin a phrase, he seems to be in the Presidential world , but not of it. Somehow he comes across as confident in the sense of not worried, in the face of an extraordinary mess but not arrogant and not aloof. Engaged with horrific crises, but not scared and not in the bliss of ignorance. I'm like "more power to ya, Barry". So far, so good. ^^^^^^^ Why not just read his book - "Dreams from my father?" ^^^^^ CB: I did. ^^^^^ And then describe how being raised, during his formative years, where he was raised mirror the life of blacks in American Northern or Southern cities and country side. I do not write Obama is an immigrant. His story - meaning the story that he tells, and to a large degree the live he has lived, is that of the story of the immigrant and their first generation offspring. ^^^^^ CB: Maybe sort of half, but the other half is pretty American native. I will say that he's sort of like "a brother from another planet". More like an "immigrant" from ancient Egypt or something, somekind of higher civilization than America. His mother was an anthropologist, and he lived in Indonesia for a while, which might give him some ability to view American culture objectively like an immigrant, but his grandfather was a traveling salesman and his grandmother worked in a bank, real regular Americans from Kansas He's _sui generis_, a phenomon, breaking through a new "quantitative boundry" in personality type. He's got a lot of character, and, well../\. intelligence social intelligence and abstract intelligence. ^^^^^^^^ If you disagree with an interpretation why not simply state something to the effect "that my interpretation is" unless you are saying what Obama means is "I was raised by one white parent and white grandparents and therefore I am a "uniter," with the small physiological disposition of the descendants of Southern slavery. Without question he is African American, but that does not really tell much. ^^^^ CB: See above "Uniter!" Trust me on the following: Obama is CEO for the capitalist class. WL. ^^^^^^ CB: So were Lincoln and FDR. From my observations, that's dogmatic ,formulaic thinking ,and in this situation, there keep arising more indications that something new is going on here. Need to try to think dialectically on this one. Again the first indicator is getting all those White people to vote for him. That's breaking a quantitative barrier. Then his first month as Pres is realistic , but making some changes that are possible in this context , despite all the left haters say. I could list the actions , but I'm not going to exert myself for the haters. Fuck em. The big crisis/problem is Afghanistan, and ,of course Palestine He's going to have to be Houdini on that. I can't see how he'll do it. Unless he just pretty soon , after this assessment he can get something like broker both a treaty with Hamas and a treaty with the Taliban et al not to facilitate, and to hinder any attack on the US by the bin Laden group. I don't know how he gets out of the obligation to capture bin Laden, >> Barack Obama wonderful book, "Dreams from My Father," is the immigrant story, a black immigrant, rather than the history of the Negro People, and his acute awareness of this living history accounts for his unique and individual ability to cross the color line. When Obama writes, "My identity might begin with the fact of my race, but it didn’t, couldn’t, end there," what is meant is that my identity is not defined on the basis of the color factor in American history. The words of Obama reveals why no self respecting Marxist, born and reared as part of the "baby boomers," can deploy the concept race, other than the petty bourgeois intellectuals unable to fully digest dialectics without opportunist sauce. << ^^^^^ CB: Obama's words don't mean that. Unlike most Black people he was raised by White parents and grandparents. This gave him an unusual ability to understand both aspects of his Duboisian double consciousness. It allows him to be a uniter, not a divider. Obama is not an immigrant. He had little contact with his immigrant father. He was raised by US natives _______________________________________________ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis
