In a message dated 3/7/2009 12:38:24 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, cdb1...@prodigy.net writes:
Waistline2 ________________________________ The issue is always "what is wrong" rather than "who is wrong." Labeling people "haters" . . . "left haters," who do not support Obama the person and the Obama presidency in a country where the working class is so and "devisive and sectarian" that the majority refuse to vote at all, is "what is wrong." ^^^^^^ CB: I was responding to you writing about me ( who) was penning away about Obama's increasing unemployment benefits. One good criticism of "who" deserves another (smile) As far as left-haters, on these lists the issue of motive in interpreting the events since O's election is pertinent. I regularly read posts that interpret the glass as half empty when it could be interpreted as half-full. ^^^^^ I see no reason what so ever to praise (my exact word) Obama or his administration for extending unemployment benefits to the exact same degree and the exact same way done under the Bush W. administration. ^^^^^^^ CB: I do. It's what's going on on these 'left lists these days. It's just another praise added to opening up stem cell research, pay equity for women, the budget reversing Reaganism, announcement of the withdrawal of the troops from Iraq, stimulus package. That's the context. The unemployment thing is not isolated. Also, O's admin did two things Bush didn't do. $25 more per week, and no tax on first $2,500. Plus, they did it right away. And it is very important to keep up popular support for Obama, counter the propaganda from Kramer and the Wall Street mouthpieces, Limbaugh. We're in an ongoing struggle, campaign. It didn't end with the election campaign. The "little" things are like little pieces of campaign literature handed out at the polls or door to door. So, I'd say you're wrong on what is do be done right now. ^^^^ ^^^ The issue I wrote about was not an addition $100 a month, but deals with a completely different realm: a measure of what took place under the Bush W. administration, ^^^^ CB: So, why would you criticize the praise of the $100 a month and the tax break , which was more than what Bush did. Plus, I don't think Bush did it at the beginning of his presidency. I have to check. No reason to criticize the praise of Obama for doing something good 'cause Bush did it. ^^^ the precedence of the past and the art of the possible. It is imperative that communist always stay one step ahead along the path the working class must travel as its spontaneous movement and its self discovery of itself as a class. The LENS to use in traveling this path is that if the lowest section of the workers as their interest intersect and find expression in the political sphere. ^^^^^ CB: In this case. one step ahead along that path is to rally the working class to support Obama. In case you didn't notice the bourgeoisie are rallying against his first pro-working class moves. The ultra-left is stumbling into joining Kramer, Santelli and Limbaugh ^^^^^^ What is wrong is praising the Obama administration and the one hand; and condemnation of comrades - "let haters," whose opinion might disagree with someone's else opinion. ^^^^^^ CB: See above. See discussion several weeks ago posts on Lenin's polemics against the ultra-left. We have the same task today. ^^^^^^ To begin with it is impossible to "save" capital without saving those workers connected to it as the unity of productive forces and production relations. To preserve this unity it is necessary to increase demand and I shall never approach or suggest negotiating from a standpoint that my enemies are doing me or mine a favor, . . with a concession, as such. . ^^^^^ CB: You have a different attitude toward the Obama "event" than I do. I think we should rally the working class in support of him. It's true it's because it's the best we have right now, but , there you go. It's sort of like supporting Coleman Young as Mayor. ^^^^^ ^^^^^ .. The real issue is over concentrating on "private sector jobs" - as government spending or socially necessary means of life. The pouring of trillions of dollars down the rabbit hole of modern speculative finance is designed to starve the workers of these needed funds. ^^^^^ CB: Well, yeah, that more later The issue is not "me" or "who I am," rather the issue is how are comrades to frame the current struggle of the working class. Towards this end a doctrine is being put forth as the strategy and tactics of using "class intersection" as a measure of the complex fight unfolding. This is what is missing in assessments of the Obama administration and the existing correlations of forces in the Senate. Further comrades cannot be sectarian for fighting to establish a communist polarity in the political sphere. Which side are you on is not a conception of Democrats or Republicans but workers and capitalist. WL. _______________________________________________ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis **************Need a job? Find employment help in your area. 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