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Politically, most of the Vienna Circle was progressive and often socialist. Neurath called himself a Marxist, Carnap, I don't ever described himself as one but he did call himself a socialist. When he emigrated to the US, he remained active on behalf of progressive causes. He came under FBI suspicion, since, among other things, he was in the habit of sending letters to the editor, to the Daily Worker. He was blasted by Sidney Hook for his participation in the 1949 Waldorf Peace Conference. In the 1960s, Carnap was a supporter of both the civil rights movement and the antiwar movement. There were a few members of the Vienna Circle who were more conservative in outlook. Moritz Schlick, who was the titular head of the Circle, was a conservative. Louis Rougier, who was the only French affiliate with the Circle, was also a right-winger. He was a friend of Friedrich Hayek, and during the Second World War, he served in posts under the Vichy regime in France. Jim Farmelant http://independent.academia.edu/JimFarmelant http://www.linkedin.com/in/jimfarmelant www.foxymath.com Learn or Review Basic Math From: dave x Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 10:42 AM To: Jim Farmelant ; Activists and scholars in Marxist tradition Subject: Re: [Marxism] Otto Neurath and Marxism Thanks for the article. Will note that being written in 1990 it misses much of the revival of research around the Vienna Circle. The Vienna Circle was 'neutralist' only in a certain formal sense as you know (the political context of the 50s/early 60s when Carnap was quoted is obviously very different from the 20s and 30s), for those interested in the political aspects of Carnap's project I do recommend the new book by AW Carus, 'Explication as Enlightenment'. -dave On Dec 30, 2014 9:44 AM, "Jim Farmelant via Marxism" <marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: ******************** POSTING RULES & NOTES ******************** #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. ***************************************************************** People in the anglophone world often forget that Otto Neurath, one of the founders of the Vienna Cirlce, was, besides being a logical empiricist, was also a Marxist. Here is a link to an article on Neurath as Marxist. http://kuscholarworks.ku.edu/bitstream/handle/1808/9325/auslegung.v16.n02.175-189.pdf;jsessionid=9AA6455FEFF6FCE63FAED360ECDF546C?sequence=1 BTW in the article on Friedrich Hayek, of which I'm a co-author, there is a discussion of Otto Neurath as a participant in the socialist calculation debates with Hayek. The whole debate started in the first place when Hayek's mentor, Ludwig von Mises, published an article in 1920, "Economic calculation in the socialist commonwealth," which had been written by Mises in response to Neurath's writings in defense of socialist economic planning. https://www.academia.edu/3291616/The_Strange_Case_of_Dr._Hayek_and_Mr._Hayek BTW Mises' 1920 article can be found here. https://mises.org/library/economic-calculation-socialist-commonwealth/html Jim Farmelant http://independent.academia.edu/JimFarmelant http://www.foxymath.com Learn or Review Basic Math ____________________________________________________________ Apple's Crazy New Gizmo Forget the iPhone 6. Next hit Apple product leaked. (see picture) http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/54a2e4005757463ff3554st04vuc _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/dave.xx%40gmail.com ____________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com