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On 3/13/2016 2:39 PM, Manuel Barrera via Marxism wrote:
Geez, it sounds, Clay, like you (and unfortunately too many others) seem to
think that Black and Brown youth response to the ongoing racist, xenophobic
violence and threats of violence by Trump and the racists he has emboldened
were somehow ill-advised in exerting their RIGHT to stand up against it.
Manuel,
You're assertion of their RIGHT, reminds me of the saying "The road to
hell is paved with good intentions."
I say, in essence, our troops rode into an ambush, and you response with
"their RIGHT to stand up against it." So I have to ask you: What's your
point? Of course they have "the RIGHT" to fight the enemy whenever and
wherever they can. They even have the RIGHT to ride into an ambush. I
just think it ill-advised to do so.
A UIC venue not really controlled by UIC [ a home of the BLM and 46%
white] the week before the Illinois primary was ground of Trump's
choosing. That's doesn't mean we shouldn't meet him on it. There are
many factors to consider. It does mean we mustn't approach these
questions any less strategically than Trump. Justifying a dog whistle
response to his provocation with talk about RIGHTS is not on.
And I don't fault the Black and Brown youth for this error because they
lack the political wisdom that comes with experience. The article Kevin
forwarded to this thread was very informative in this regard,
But during the meeting, when the question was raised, “How many people
here have been to a protest?” 20 of the 100 students present raised
their hands. Then the question was asked, “How many have organized a
protest?” only a few hands went up.
Kevin finds that very inspiring. I find it very depressing. Very
depressing indeed that in a city that has a Left radical history going
back as long as I can remember, there was so little in the way of
experienced leaders to guide them. Given the relative lack of
leadership, which is not their fault, I expect they will ride into quite
a few ambushes and sadly learn other things the hard way, but then I am
one who blames this whole sorry state of affairs on a "Left" that has
been almost completely captured by phonies.
Yes, the article was inspiring as to how they organized the disruption
so quickly but it also doesn't indicate that ten minutes of thought or
discussion was ever given as to what Trump's motive in planning the UIC
rally was, how it would likely effect Tuesday's primary vote, what Trump
expected to get out of it. They just knew that he held it there they
would come, as did he.
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