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> On Oct 5, 2016, at 3:41 PM, Andrew Stewart via Marxism > <marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > > But what does Madiba know in comparison to Clay? If you knew anything about Mandela’s final years, I doubt you’d be inclined to make him the focus of your fallacious appeal to authority. This is from about a year after that speech: "Mandela is said by those close to him to be suffering from a form of senile dementia, which doctors say is common in the very old. He gets confused and is easily upset and agitated. Importantly, for a man who was obsessed with the news, his family and the military now largely protect him from the details of everyday life." From here: http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/26/world/africa/south-africa-mandela-importance/ And before you resort to imagining a quick descent over the course of 2011, it is pretty well known that he was fading (and sheltered) long before then. _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com