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More recent comment from and details about Jaysh al Thuwar and associated political formation the Syrian National Democratic Alliance which includes the Revolutionary Left Current here http://theregion.org/m/article/12757-whose-free-syrian-army-the-arab-opposition-resisting-turkey-039-s-afrin-attacks On Wed, 14 Feb 2018 at 1:41 am, Chris Slee via Marxism < marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > ******************** POSTING RULES & NOTES ******************** > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > ***************************************************************** > > Patrick Cockburn has reported that Turkey has been recruiting large > numbers of former ISIS fighters to its version of the "Free Syrian Army": > > www.counterpunch.org/2018/02/12/is-turkey-recruiting-ex-isis-fighters/ > > Whether these people can still be considered as ISIS members may be > debatable. The point the Jaysh al Thuwar representatives are making is > that they do not consider these (ex?) ISIS members as real representatives > of the Free Syrian Army. > > Regarding HTS, Rod Nordland says in the February 4 New York Times: > > "Elements of that same group are among the Free Syrian Army militias, many > of them Islamic extremists, who are allied to the Turks and fighting in > Afrin, according to the group and analysts in the area". > > www.nytimes.com/2018/02/04/world/middleeast/turkey-afrin-syria.html? > > Chris Slee > > > ________________________________ > From: Marxism <marxism-boun...@lists.csbs.utah.edu> on behalf of RKOB via > Marxism <marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> > Sent: Tuesday, 13 February 2018 9:42:52 PM > To: Chris Slee > Subject: Re: [Marxism] Jaysh al Thuwar commander: Turkey turned ISIS, Al > Nusra into FSA (ANF) > > ******************** POSTING RULES & NOTES ******************** > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > ***************************************************************** > > It might be useful to think first before forwarding such YPG nonsense! > > ISIS and HTS are attacking the Kurds in Afrin? > > ISIS and HTS are pretty busy on other fronts! Actually they are > currently killing each other in South Idlib! Check their website, check > other news, check the pro-Turkish news - everyone will confirm this. > > No serious source has ever claimed that ISIS and HTS are participating > in the Turkish attack on Afrin. > > Why should they? > > To support the Turkish army? But Turkey has a) expelled ISIS via their > Operation Euphrates Shield and b) has signed the Astana agreement which > calls for the annihilation of HTS. So why on earth should they help > Turkey?! > > As Trotsky once said: Even slander should have some logic! > > And, by the way, a group like the Jaysh al Thuwar which is - as part of > the SDF - officially financed and supported by the US is not the most > serious source. > > > Am 13.02.2018 um 11:10 schrieb Chris Slee via Marxism: > > ******************** POSTING RULES & NOTES ******************** > > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > > ***************************************************************** > > > > Jaysh al Thuwar (Army of Revolutionaries) is a predominantly Arab force > that is part of the Syrian Democratic Forces, along with the predominantly > Kurdish YPG/YPJ and other groups. > > > > Jaysh al Thuwar was formed in 2015 by survivors of the Syrian > Revolutionaries Front and other Free Syrian Army-aligned groups in northern > Syria that were attacked by Jabhat al Nusra. > > > > Jaysh al Thuwar is helping to defend Afrin against the invasion by the > Turkish army and some of its proxies that use the name "Free Syrian Army". > Jaysh al Thuwar rejects the right of the Turkish-backed forces to use this > name. > > > > Chris Slee > > > > *** > > > > > https://anfenglish.com/rojava/jaysh-al-thuwar-commander-turkey-turned-isis-al-nusra-into-fsa-24891 > > > > > > "The forces gathered under the Jaysh Al Thuwar (“Army of > Revolutionaries”) umbrella say they are the true FSA and they have come > together for the Syrian revolution, while those who attack Afrin are ISIS, > Hayat Tahrir Al Sham (formerly Al Nusra)..." > > > > “Turkey wanted to make us fight against Kurds. They formed the group > called the Euphrates Shield. We were there at first, but we left when the > Nusra people arrived. The top level Nusra members in Idlib are all in > Turkey now. They all say they are FSA, but that is not true. 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