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"You don't like the fact that the BDS demands are compatible with Democratic Zionism? Too bad." Comrades should know, of course, the BDS demands are totally incompatible with Zionism, as is democracy. Here is the original 2005 BDS statement: https://bdsmovement.net/call. Sheldon Ranz' bigotry closely resembles the kind of whitewash that Theodore Herzl tried to present to dishonestly build support from leftists while privately being unabashed about his desire to colonize land. As comrades can see from Sheldon Ranz other post explaining his ideology <http://socialistcurrents.org/?p=2914>, the reason he thinks BDS liberalism is compatible with his racist ideology is for the same reason he thinks his racist ideology is liberal. These are the ideas that are taught in Israeli government-sponsored civics classes. It is complete nonsense. It is like someone arguing that white supremacy is compatible with Martin Luther King by sanitizing white supremacy as a liberal idea. And of course, despite Sheldon's bizarre comments it is important for comrades to call out those who put themselves in charge of leaderless movements.There is absolutely nothing supportive about Sheldon's statements. They are openly racist. They defend the rights of Palestinians by saying they won't actually be implemented. Even assuming that it is true as a strategic matter, there is absolutely no reason that someone on the Left, let alone someone involved with the Palestine solidarity movement, should be validating the notion that there is something wrong with Palestinians returning to present-day Israel. Imagine someone who puts himself in charge of the immigrants rights movement and then gives speeches saying "Don't worry immigrants won't actually come here so go ahead and keep being xenophobic, it's totally fine". That is quite literally what Sheldon argues about the "tricky" demand that Palestinians be entitled to return to their own lands without being stopped by a colonial border. Those of you who followed the controversy about the Chicago Dyke March know that it was, in fact, slanderous, as I documented here: http://mondoweiss.net/2017/07/semitism-disproved-accounts/ We should question why someone who pretends to support Palestine as a "Zionist" would defend the smears of a self-declared pro-Israel lobbyist who has literally done the same thing multiple times. For example, the woman who lied about the Chicago Dyke March also falsely claimed that leftists disrupted a Jewish prayer service when they actually disrupted a pro-Israel lobbying reception: https://jqyouth.blogspot.com/2016/01/jqy-at-national-lgbtq-creating-change.html Whether it comes from active Zionist advocates or Zionist "allies" like Sheldon Ranz, it should be rejected. I don't even know why I would have to argue this on a Marxist list-serv. Zionists are not friends of the left, they are racist poison and if Sheldon's comments about Palestinians had been made about Jews there would be no ambiguity about how unwelcome he should be. Amith R. Gupta On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 10:29 AM, Louis Proyect via Marxism < marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > ******************** POSTING RULES & NOTES ******************** > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > ***************************************************************** > > On 3/29/18 10:06 AM, Sheldon Ranz via Marxism wrote: > >> Louis Proyect and I have both pointed out in past threads here your, to >> put >> it charitably, hostile attitudes toward Jews. >> > > Huh? I did no such thing. > > Frankly, my only concern about Mear One's mural is not that the threat it > poses to the Jews but to the left. I get angry over Corbyn's lack of > defense, to put it into a sports context, not over his supposedly > encouraging pogroms. If you really want to understand what anti-Semitism > can do, go see the movie "A Bag of Marbles" about 2 boys who denied being > Jewish during the Vichy regime. > > My main interest is in building the left. That is why I write criticisms > of ultraleftism, such as embodied in the "punch a Nazi" tropes or George > C-M's appearances on the Tucker Carlson show. > > I am absolutely in favor of Corbyn becoming the Prime Minister of England. > Anything that gets in the way has to be moved aside. He has surrounded > himself with the conspiracy-mongering louts of the Stop the War Coalition. > They are not acting as the proper antenna he needs to ward off these > threats. In fact, they serve as blinders. > _________________________________________________________ > Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm > Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/opt > ions/marxism/amithrgupta%40gmail.com > _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com