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"If you know of forms of racism that are "tolerated" by the left, then why the hell aren't you fighting THAT racism? Can't you speak up when you see such injustice, AS THE REST OF US TRY TO? " That is literally all I have been doing. That is what half of my posts on this list-serv that you have turned into a cesspool through posts like this have been about. You posted the same clipped text, so the only purpose of this new topic is for you to (yet again) falsely insinuate that my comments about racism are a guise for normalizing anti-Semitism. Jeff, you are once again *proving my point*. The original, taken from my criticism of self-declared Zionist Sheldon Ranz, is here: " *Specifically, this: http://socialistcurrents.org/?p=2914 ^^^Outside of the obvious racism that underpins comments like: "Demand #3 [The right of Palestinians to return to their lands] appears to be the “tricky one”, since, on first glance, it plays into fears that it mandates Israel allowing a flood of Palestinian refugees that would turn Israel’s Jewish majority into a minority. *Not only is this highly unlikely, since Jews have not flooded Israel under the Jewish Law of Return, but the demand’s wording only deals with the principle of the Right of Return and does not concern itself with its actual implementation.*" There is also the obvious thread that runs through Sheldon's entire worldview about Zionism in that he attempts to make it compatible with liberalism and democracy. It is a racist whitewash and would explain why Sheldon Ranz thinks Tony Greenstein is anti-Semitic for using the prefix "Zio" which means "Zionist". That is not being "part" of the BDS Movement, that is co-opting it with bigotry against the very people he claims to be defending. Gross. That is putting aside all of the other bizarre and straightforwardly racist comments he has made in prior discussions. *Ironically, Sheldon proves the point I made earlier in this thread: that anti-Semitism is treated exceptionally on the left while other forms of racism are tolerated, and much if not all of the fuss is itself rooted in anti-Arab bigotry that Sheldon Ranz embodies with his unwelcome "support". * Jeff is trolling in defense of Sheldon Ranz and his whitewashing of Zionism. The point shouldn't even need to be labored this much, so Jeff is apparently doing the kind of thing that nitpicky prosecutors do: purposely removing quotes from context to cast suspicion on defendants. Sheldon (and now Jeff) are literal proof that the exaggerated claims of "left anti-Semitism" are designed to validate other forms of racism. Jeff is literally doing that in this very thread that he began by taking my comments about Sheldon Ranz blatantly racist statements about Zionism out of context. Then he asks why I haven't condemned those racist statements when they're literally the only things I've posted about. ??? This is trolling. Amith R. Gupta On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 1:18 PM, Jeff via Marxism < marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > ******************** POSTING RULES & NOTES ******************** > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > ***************************************************************** > > On 2018-03-29 18:29, A.R. G via Marxism wrote: > >> >> Are you joking? Jeff, the only person that wrote that was you. >> > > No, I'm not joking, and you conveniently clipped the original exchange > from your reply. So I'll restore it. I was responding to what YOU had > written: > > On 2018-03-29 15:04, A.R. G via Marxism wrote: > >> anti-Semitism is treated exceptionally on the left while other forms of >> racism are tolerated >> > > So I'll put it a different way: If you know of forms of racism that are > "tolerated" by the left, then why the hell aren't you fighting THAT racism? > Too busy? Well then just start by telling the rest of us what we have been > "tolerating" for so long (because we're supposedly too busy fighting > antisemitism") and DEMAND that we stop our treachery! Can't you speak up > when you see such injustice, AS THE REST OF US TRY TO? > > Or is this just an attempt to normalize racism? > > - Jeff > > > > > > > > I never > >> suggested that anti-Semitism be tolerated, only that the inequality of >> "tolerance" indicates that the obsession with anti-Semitism (including >> yours) is itself a sign of inequality (by definition). So if you are going >> to accuse me of tolerating anti-Semitism you should not be able to >> fabricate quotes in this manner. >> >> Amith R. Gupta >> > _________________________________________________________ > Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm > Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/opt > ions/marxism/amithrgupta%40gmail.com > _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
