This discussion began with the assertion that the Soviets
distinguished between Germans and the Nazi state.  I objected to this
as a fairy tale, mentioning in particular the mass rape of what was
estimated as two million German females of all ages by elements of the
Red Army.

In response, we were told that it never happened.  We were told that
it did happen, but that it was excusable because soldiers of other
armies did it, because of modernization problems, etc.  And we even
had mass rape politically justified.  As with other Fundamentalists,
the faithful ignored evidence when convenient and damned the
unbelievers...  Through most of it was, my astonishment gave way to
deep disgust...

And the list wonders why there aren't more women participating in
these discussions.

The Marxism to which I've always adhered has never required denying
discomforting facts and it has never justified anything like mass
rape.

I've never been as utterly ashamed of a discussion on this list on any
subject as on this one.

ML

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