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The subject here was--and remains--whether or not these groups will agree to participate in a united socialist presidential campaign. Based on past experience, I doubt they could even imagine overcoming their clubbiness... You guys are certainly free to say and think that they will. But until you bring back agreements from these groups to participated in such a thing campaign or something else concrete, a united socialist campaign is simply an illusion. We have to make the best of the circumstances with which we're confronted. ML ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com