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Artesian wrote (in response to the comment by Louis 
that running an explisitly socialist elctoral challenge 
to Obama would be a bad, bad, bad, idea:

>I don't think it's a bad idea at all. For 60 years, 
>the word "socialism" has been abandoned to either 
>foaming attacks by the right, or the outright
>stupidity of the left.

This brings us to the same argument that has obsessed 
the left in Britain for years as to whether to form 
a "half way house" to chalenge New Labour or to
launch a new Socilaist Party that would mount an electoral 
campaign. It would seem that given the realpolitik of the
US there are a range of choices and all of them offer 
significant challenges. These are the choices as I see them.

1. A new populist party 

2. A united front of existing socialist/communist 
organizations with a common slate of candidates for 2012

3. A 'regrouped' socialist/communist party focused on
electoral work.

As far as Louis is concerned, #2 & 3 are the same and equally
ineffective. For Artesian and Eli, #2 is the option of choice.
Even with a common candidate (with some name recognition)
at the head of any of these tickets, there are formidable 
obstacles ahead. 

#1 requires a critical mass of the "Daily Kos"
type disgruntled liberal to make the divorce with DP 
final. They will be looking for institutional support 
and resources that are, as of now, not there. 

#2 requires a working agreement, quickly, between 
several of the existing parties and groups commiting
themselves to a untied front for 2012. Have these 
discussions probable or even possible?

#3 requires a leap of faith (not to mention consciousness).



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