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Interesting, but its a straw man, as that's not what I said at all, nor does it reflect my attitude toward the legacy of Karl Marx. What I said was that the guy who said uncultivated land was valueless seemed to express an idealist outlook and yes it seems empirically obvious to me that there is overwhelming evidence that price fluctuations are in part a function of subjective factors; like what the consumer is willing to pay for this and that etc. Marxism, to the extent we need an "ism", should not be a religion with a fixed and ossified dogma, moreover those of us who have worked as activists in the progressive movement for decades-me since 1967 when I was 14-and who sacrificed much as full time cadres in socialist organizations for years (in my case the Socialist Workers Party) have earned the right (paid our dues, literally) to candidly and sometimes critically discuss Marx and his ideas, which was, and remains to some extent, our stock in trade, but to not worship him either, to not reify Marxism into an alien "thing" over human beings like some wretched Stalinoid religion. So yeah I think there is the danger of idealism if people are blindly started from dogma and ignoring empirical reality since obviously the truth of ideas must be constantly tested against reality. For what it's worth, here Wikipedia's quick take on this issue for people on the go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_theory_of_value On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 8:43 PM, Leonardo Kosloff <[email protected]>wrote: > > Nobody is trying to get personal about it, nor belittling. I'm only asking > for evidence, being an ass-hole about it, but you can't say you weren't > asking for > it when you flat out say that Marx's, the dead dog prophet, approach to > value and price seems "idealist" and that it is oblivious of the realization > problems in the economy (which ain't true,) and how price fluctuations are > regulated by subjective factors and market conditions...in this list called > MARX-mail. > > ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: [email protected] Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
