On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 03:57 PM, Steven L. Robinson wrote:

> 
> I remember reading English language publications of the Soviet and Chinese
> states back in the late 1970s and the early 1980s. At that time, they had
> no problem criticizing the other Government's treatment of ethnic
> minorities or neighboring countries. The favored terms used by the Chinese
> state for its Soviet peer were "Great nation chauvinist" and "social
> imperialist."
> 
> Going back before the twentieth Century, there is the long history of the
> Chinese State maintaining tributary relations with countries throughout
> their periphery. Such relations were not identical to those that the
> United States or the European rulers of the early 20th Century maintained
> with the rest of the world, but they are certainly comparable. Who knows
> but had the Ming Dynasty not called back its ships in the early 1400s, the
> Chinese State might have ended up with a string of colonies throughout the
> Indian and Pacific Oceans rivaling in size those of the later European
> States.
> 
> For Russia, it is hard to ignore its territorial expansion across Eurasia.
> Moreover, it had at least one overseas colony, its called Alaska. Plus,
> until driven out by the Japanese, the Russians eagerly participated in the
> carving up of China, just as they did with the Brits in dividing up Iran
> in the days before Reza Pahlavi.
> 
> SR
> 
> 
>> On 11/19/2020 12:35 PM Vladimiro Giacche' <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
> 
> 
>> I can only add that there is NO POSSIBLE COMPARISON between the “sins” of
>> the “West” (= western colonial powers) and those of Russians (not Great
>> Russian, which never existed as a people) and Chinese.
>> Very basic knowledge of history is sufficient for acknowledging that such
>> an assertion is true.
>> V
>> 
>> 
>> Inviato da iPhone
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

QED.   What sort of halfwitted, crazy bully would deny this in a tone dripping 
with fake Leninist menace, however limpwristed?  Everyone knows this is true.


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