On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 9:58 AM Louis Proyect <[email protected]> wrote: > Since Ramsey's article is a close reading of Robinson's "Black Marxism" that I have not read in its entirety, I'll have to bracket > it out. . . .
I haven't read Robinson's "Black Marxism" either. I think i still benefited from Ramsey's critique of "Black Marxism." After reading Ramsey's expose of how Robinson misrepresented Richard Wright, i wonder about Robin D.G. Kelley's unqualified endorsement of "Black Marxism." [https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/5992] I am sympathetic to Charlie Post's point that "Put simply, the notion of “racial capitalism” is redundant—there is no “non-racial” capitalism." I am not impressed with Satnam Virdee's effort to rebut this in his response to Post (in the Brooklyn Rail https://brooklynrail.org/2021/02/field-notes/The-Longue-Dure-of-Racialized-Capitalism-A-Response-to-Charlie-Post). IMO it is at least questionable the way Virdee equates religious (and other) discrimination with racism. Can we expect to see some reformers fighting valiantly against "racial capitalism" (carefully implying that capitalism can outlast racial capitalism) just as i've watched decades of reformers fighting to save capitalism from neoliberalism? On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 9:58 AM Louis Proyect <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 2/2/21 7:19 AM, Dayne Goodwin wrote: > > What do you think of this? - > > On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 11:26 AM Jim Farmelant <[email protected]> wrote: > > Sifting the “Stony Soil” of Black Marxism: Cedric Robinson, Richard > Wright, and Ellipses of the Black Radical Tradition [by Joseph G. Ramsey] > > https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/08854300.2020.1862559?fbclid=IwAR1EpJqmm_L5yFNEoo5lD_kbwGP2fgQC5gLG8EmwYq3UAEVh3ci16Jt0GPQ > > and this > > Beyond “Racial Capitalism” > Toward a Unified Theory of Capitalism and Racial Oppression > by Charlie Post, Brooklyn Rail, October 2020 > https://brooklynrail.org/2020/10/field-notes/Beyond-Racial-Capitalism-Toward-A-Unified-Theory-of-Capitalism-and-Racial-Oppression > > Since Ramsey's article is a close reading of Robinson's "Black Marxism" that I have not read in its entirety, I'll have to bracket it out. > > Post claims that it was only under capitalist property-relations that racism as a distinct way of "differentiating human beings" developed. The problem with this, however, is that imposes the Brenner thesis on world history that fails to account for the transitional period between feudalism and capitalism that lasted for centuries as well as being spread across continents. For example, when the Portuguese began the slave trade in the 15th century, it was a way of differentiating human beings as should be obvious. In chapter 31 of Capital, Marx explained all this, even though the Brennerites carefully avoid commenting on it: > > The discovery of gold and silver in America, the extirpation, enslavement and entombment in mines of the aboriginal population, the beginning of the conquest and looting of the East Indies, the turning of Africa into a warren for the commercial hunting of black-skins, signalised the rosy dawn of the era of capitalist production. > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#6092): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/6092 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/80286261/21656 -=-=- POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. -=-=- Group Owner: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/marxmail/leave/8674936/1316126222/xyzzy [[email protected]] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
