I thank Louis for posting this. Very ecumenical of him. With this issue there 
are truly many sides from which to stand and observe the issue. This is yet 
another one, "real meat" but grown in a test tube. I'd certainly try it. I've 
tried "impossible burger" and found it wanting at several levels. For *fast 
food* burgers, yes, without a doubt. When bringing it home to cook a .... "real 
hamburger" 1/3 of a pound, an inch thick, perhaps stuffed with blue cheese ... 
they don't really even rate. The author poises the question if omnivores (95% 
of the world) would eat real steak grown this way "with the same texture, same 
flavor, same experience" would we? Well, sure. Why not? But they won't. I 
simply have seen little ability to make this "steak" like meat come within a 
mile of "real meat". I'm still waiting for the "impossible burger" to be like a 
real one, either beef or lamb (never tried a lamb burger? You don't know what 
you are missing).

But, more seriously, a lot more seriously, the grown in a lab industrial meat 
(that is what it is "industrial" in no uncertain terms) from the perspective of 
the *soil* , is completely in the wrong direction. I wish Dave Riley who 
commented briefly on the other meat subject line would expand his comments on 
this since he has real word experience working with farmers and on farms. As 
does his socialist comrade, Elena Garcia, who is an organic farmer and a 
regenerative rancher. Regenerating the *soil* for me is what this all about 
(though it avoids indirectly the philosophical issues of animal "rights", 
cruelty, etc). From that perspective, we need more, not few cows, enjoying, 
however briefly, real praire grass to feed on without fear of predators. True 
"happy cows" given what cows are attracted too (which is, well, other cows 
mostly and, of course, green grass).

Cows are ruminants. In the wild they eat only grass (not grain). The carbon 
cycle *demands* that cows eat the grass that have been digesting solar energy 
and depositing the carbon in the soil through it's root system and being eaten 
by ruminants. All the excess CO2 comes from industrial farming practices, 
feedlots, industry and transportation. The ruminants were here first. About the 
same number of them are alive today in the form of hybridized European, African 
and Asian buffalo called "cows", made by our species, as there were before 
Europeans started settling the New World. So it ain't the cows fault their 
burbs and farts contribute to climate change that is ALL on us. Leave the cows 
along. Get rid of cows and basically the world will never have enough 
fertilizer to grow all those organic vegetables. It's one thing to grow in 
boutique organic farms kale, micro greens and broccoli, it's another thing to 
fertilize the wheat fields of the world with only "compost". We need to restore 
the nitrogen/carbon cycle and that can only be done by returning cows to the 
land, not eliminating them as our vegan comrades would prefer.


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