Seriously? 'Passive sadism!?' Isn't anything created, built, manufactured or grown -- generated through some level of exploitation? The 'ethical' consumer mindset is a weird selective notion. Plants die. Animals die. We die. Without death there isn't a living to be had by any other living thing. The readiness of ethical consumption advocates to revert to hi-tech 'processed' solutions is disconcerting -- as well as being highly elitist. It's like the Jainist ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jainism ) nobility who employed servants to rid insects of their living space for fear they'd inadvertently killed one. I see animal liberation as a reactionary mindset that has led to some warped obsessions among its adherents. A much better approach is to 'farm' with the premise that your meat is grown by a creature who had only bad day in its life -- the day it died. Factory farming doesn't allow that or is hostile to that as it is driven by a crude commodification. In effect, lab meat is in the same mode -- amounting, in the final analysis, as a boutique marketing ploy.
As Gunnar Rundgren points out: ( https://gardenearth.blogspot.com/2020/04/do-we-need-farmfree-food.html ) "Farm free foods and food tech can also be seen as an expression of a desire to decouple human development from nature. Even if we could fulfill the food tech dream to free us from the limits of nature, it would leave us empty, free from meaning. Instead of de-coupling human civilization from nature, we need to live in and by nature. We are fooling ourselves and betray the rest of the living by pretending we are a species that don't need the rest of the living – after all we are nature." As for the metabolic rift issue - - there are a few Vegan templates on offer of how to farm completely (and 'sustainably?') without animal input. But what I'm seeing is a sort of displacement where supplements and fertilisation -- if not of manufactured chemical origin -- is harvested from human manures, especially urine. If there is a technological fix worth pursuing, that's it: getting human piss and shit back to the fields. In ancient China there was even a market in the stuff. As David Walters points out, soil rules us. And the life of the soil lives on death and decay. dave riley -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#6700): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/6700 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/80849733/21656 -=-=- POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. -=-=- Group Owner: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/marxmail/leave/8674936/21656/1316126222/xyzzy [[email protected]] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
