On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 09:20 AM, Charlie (predictably) wrote:

> 
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 12:21 AM, Marv Gandall wrote:
> 
>> I doubt they will attempt to destroy the existing constitutional
>> structures.
> 
> This time Marv gives us well less than a half-truth.

Charlie quotes well less than half my sentance which begins: " I don't doubt 
that Trump and his cohort will try even harder in a second term to rollback 
democratic rights and use their control of the state apparatus to consolidate 
their hold on power” and then continues "but I doubt they will attempt...etc.” 
I further noted that the Trump Repubicans are also set on attacking the social 
and economic gains won by the working class and its allies.

Against this, Charlie counters with a New Republic article stating that "i f 
the Republicans gain control of both Houses of Congress, expect a 
state-authorized Constitutional Convention to eviscerate core rights and 
protections most Americans hold dear. ”

He reads (or prefers to read) into this that the Trumpists will launch a 
full-fledged assault to replace the existing Constitution with  a one party 
state which will outlaw the Democrats and the unons and other mass 
organizations and eliminate freedom of assembly and the right to vote - 
essential features of fascism, which was the subject of my reply to Michael.

The New Republic article, in fact, nowhere comes near to suggesting this is 
what the Trumpists have in mind. It states that they are seeking a “centrepiece 
amendment” to the Constitution which would gut " popular programs such as 
Social Security, unemployment insurance, Medicare, and Medicaid.” Whether a) 
their scheme for a “constitutional convention” to implement these rollbacks 
even gets off the ground, b) whether the Democratic half of the country will 
passively accept it, and c) whether the Republican working class base will 
accept these planned rollbacs are the real issues the broad US left will have 
to contend with if Trump returns to office.

Bobby MacVeety is correct to point out that the left can turn the right-wing 
babble about the Constitution to its advantage by pointing to the gerrymandered 
political system, unaccountable judiciary, and other constitutional 
arrangements which have perpetuated the unequal distribution of wealth and 
power in the US since its formation. It ’ s not yet time for Marxmail’s 
moderators to begin making preparations to host an underground list serve 
against a fascist dictatorship.


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