On Wed, Sep 11, 2024 at 09:12 PM, Chris Slee wrote:

> 
> I agree with Andrew Stewart that the de facto alliance between China and
> the US began in the early 1970s.

Gerald Horne's book 'White Supremacy Confronted' shows ZANU and the 
Pan-Africanist Congress were creating trouble for the ANC and S. African 
Communist Party as early as 1960. Robert F Williams served as an emissary for 
Washington and Beijing, something that could have begun as early as when he 
first sojourned to China in 1963. And in 1964, you have (of all people!) Deng 
trying to convince Hanoi to renounce all relations with the Soviet Union in the 
name of the Sino-Soviet Split. In 1966, the Bolivian Communists allowed their 
feelings regarding the Sino-Soviet split to influence their decision regarding 
their refusal to support Che. So there are repeated instances in the Hot Zones 
where we see serious impacts upon not just sectarian squabbles but the 
life-and-death outcomes for people struggling for liberation.
I have Chinese American family that I am quite close to, my uncle by marriage 
had a law practice that did student visa work in Providence after Deng's 
opening and my mother was his paralegal. One of their sons spent two years on 
the mainland and explained that "Communism" is just the name for a nationalist 
revolution that is subordinate to a sense of patriotism that has a continuous 
cultural memory dating back 4,000 years. The aspiration of China today reflects 
aspirations they have held as a nation since before Jesus Christ was born. 
Chinese Communism is the most egalitarian of three forms of governance they 
have experienced in the past century (the warlord system, the Republican 
system, and the Japanese occupation were all way more miserable than Deng's 
worst moments)...but it is CHINESE before Communist.


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