On Sat, Nov 9, 2024 at 04:42 PM, Marv Gandall wrote:

> 
> But if Bhaskar Sunkara, to use my example, or for that matter anyone else
> associated with the DP, asked you to help provide marshalling and other
> services and to coordinate your activities with the main body of the
> demonstration, including the manner in which to handle confrontations with
> the fascists and the cops,  would you not agree to do so?
> 
> As you know, the independent and counter-productive actions of young
> anarchists, often encouraged by undercover provocateurs, has always been a
> concern for protest organizers, for Marxists as well as liberals. 
> Assuming you share the general disapproval of such violent freelancing 
> by. the Black bloc and Antifa, I expect you would agree to coordinate your
> activities with the organizers of the demo to ensure a peaceful and
> disciplined march or a disciplined collective defence of it if attacked. 
> If so, I would describe this as tacit cooperation "in the structure set up
> by the Dems" and it would not matter much whether or not you formally
> decided to take a seat on the coordinating committee in order to influence
> the planning and execution of the event.
> 
> 

"anyone else associated with the DP"--the answer to that is two parts: 1) no 2) 
never happen. First (2).  Really, we need to get back to events that are likely 
to happen, and if the DP is involved, they are going to appeal and solely to 
the police--and they'll want the police to keep "my organization" away from the 
demonstration. Now (1)--see (2). If DSA separate and apart from the DP wanted 
to work on a united defense formally--that's a horse of a different color, and 
to accomplish that DSA would have to agree to platform time and the opportunity 
for its "partner" to weigh in on the other elements of the demonstration.  
Being hired muscle  is not united front.

I do not agree with the blanket condemnation of "anti-fa"  Here's 
https://anticapital0.wordpress.com/why-we-are-not-anti-antifa-why-we-are-anti-anti-antifa/
 ( 
https://anticapital0.wordpress.com/why-we-are-not-anti-antifa-why-we-are-anti-anti-antifa/
 )


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