On Wed, Dec 17, 2025 at 06:34 AM, Mark Baugher wrote:

> 
> Ebert was never fond of Luxemburg or Liebnecht, for example, but the issue
> is that he had them murdered. So should I refuse to talk to or debate with
> US DSA members today?

At the last National Convention of the NAM, delegates opposed to the merger 
with the DSOC, in order to create the DSA, were heard to shout out,"Who killed 
Rosa Luxemburg?!" I assume they were members of the August 7th Caucus. 
Obviously, Irving Howe, signed off on Ebert's, presumably verbal order to have 
Rosa and Liebnecht killed. Howe, was a member of CATNAM ( 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Socialist_Organizing_Committee#:~:text=Forces%20on%20DSOC's%20right%20wing%2C%20led%20by,(CATNAM)%2C%20urged%20that%20instead%20of%20courting%20New
 ) , the Committee Against the Merger w/NAM, whose members abstained on the 
merger vote. Eighty percent of the DSOC delegates voted in favor of the merger, 
twenty percent abstained, none voted, no.

Quoting from an article in The Atlantic ( 
http://In%20response%20to%20a%20post%20on%20X%20affirming%20Harrington’s%20opposition%20to%20Stalin%20and%20Mao,%20DSA’s%20chapter%20in%20Worcester,%20Massachusetts,%20posted%20a%20video%20of%20an%20attendee%20at%20the%20convention%20shouting,%20“Fuck%20you,%20Mike%20Harrington!”%20The%20Worcester%20chapter%20celebrated%20that%20the%20organization%20had%20put%20“more%20communists%20in%20leadership,”%20making%20it%20the%20“largest%20org%20of%20socialists,%20antizionists,%20and%20commies.”
 ) , by Arash Azizi, a former member of the DSA ," In response to a post on X 
affirming Harrington’s opposition to Stalin and Mao, DSA’s chapter in 
Worcester, Massachusetts, posted a video of an attendee at the convention 
shouting, “Fuck you, Mike Harrington!” The Worcester chapter celebrated that 
the organization had put “more communists in leadership,” making it the 
“largest org of socialists, antizionists, and commies.”


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