[Edited Message Follows] > > On May 20, 2026, at 02:08, RKOB via groups.io <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > Marxists differentiate. In a war situation, where a semi-colonial or > deformed workers state is under attack by imperialist enemies, we > subordinate the slogan for overthrow of the government to that of the > defence of the country. This is currently the case in Iran and would be > the case in Cuba if the U.S. attacks it. > > >
The US has blockaded Cuba and the country is practically out of fuel. This is an act of war. They have been attacked. > > > > Outside of a war situation, we do not subordinate the slogan to replace > the government. Of course, we oppose sanctions - against Cuba as well as > against Iran. But we do not subordinate the the struggle against the > regime. > > > Is the struggle limited to slogans? If so, it's not a slogan that we can use in the US because that slogan is the policy of Trump and Marco Rubio. The only working classes that can "implement" the slogan are in Cuba and Venezuela. > > > > Otherwise, Marxists could never have called for the overthrow of the > Stalinist regimes in all the decades of the Cold War between Western > imperialism and the Stalinist states! That would have been the policy of > mega-Pabloism! > > > I answered this by pointing to an example ( https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/41745 ) of a Trotskyist group led by people who had led the Teamsters organizing drive for long-haul truckers; they led the Minneapolis General Strike; they formed the US Communist Party; they were activists in the IWW and the left-wing of US Socialist Party before WWI. Trotsky personally helped to shaped their party after he arrive in Coyoacán. And they didn't use slogans against the Soviet bureaucracy but detailed explanations to persuade workers in the US and the USSR. I think you should be more like them on this question. Mark -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#41775): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/41775 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/119270444/21656 -=-=- POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. #4 Do not exceed five posts a day. -=-=- Group Owner: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/marxmail/leave/13617172/21656/1316126222/xyzzy [[email protected]] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
