> On Jun 7, 2026, at 06:39, John Reimann via groups.io > <[email protected]> wrote: >
... > > In the United States, the crisis stems from a variety of reasons, but > socialists do themselves no favors by denying that that crisis exists. That > denialism became most evident ten years ago, when most socialists argued that > there was no widespread working class support for Trump. A friend of mine in a US auto plant told me in 2016 that about a third of the plant were Trump supporters. I don't recall any socialist denial of the working class appeal of Trump and MAGA. Do you have any evidence of that? Working class support was evident also in the reactionary Tea Party predecessor of MAGA. ... > > > Mark Baugher seems to equate MAGA with fascism. There certainly are fascist > elements within the MAGA movement, but different bonapartist regimes have > often had fascist elements within it. I meant to draw a distinction between the regime and the movement. They are not the same thing, but their interactions are important. Trump announces that his network of warehouse-prisons for immigrants will hold criminals and antifa in the future; he announces white people are oppressed and begins admitting whites from South Africa; Trump's war chief, Pete Hegseth, removes people of color and women from US military command to shape it with military officers who are presumably friendly to the MAGA agenda of white nationalism and authoritarianism; Trump turns the ICE federal police into a paramilitary force, and etc. The regime has not crushed working class organizations; they may not even want to, but the MAGA movement continues to evolve and calling it "fascist" is not an abuse of the term. Mark -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#41958): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/41958 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/119660195/21656 -=-=- POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. #4 Do not exceed five posts a day. -=-=- Group Owner: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/marxmail/leave/13617172/21656/1316126222/xyzzy [[email protected]] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
