On Sat, Jul 25, 2026 at 01:59 PM, David Walters wrote:

> 
> However, "wanting negotiations" does not mean capitulation. Majorities
> consistently reject formal territorial concessions or peace terms dictated
> by Moscow that compromise the nation's sovereignty or involve recognizing
> Russian gains.

I think you meant to direct this to the thread I started on the NLR Sidecar 
article.

My impression is that the Ukrainian masses would accept an end to the bloodshed 
and destruction of their economic infrastructure if the US and NATO gave the 
country firm security guarantees and a reconstruction fund is established even 
if the territorial issues, ie. the status of the Donbas and Crimea is left to 
unspecified further talks and a possible referendum. That's at least the 
framework that some have suggested for an armistice short of a peace agreement 
at any rate. Neither the Russian nor Ukraine/NATO camp seem ready to abandon 
their maximum war aims at this stage. The Europeans in particular are able to 
use the war as justification for their military Keynesianism to prop up their 
flagging economies.


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