Yes, the Soviet Union actually "raced" the United States to see which would
recognize Israel first after the UN adopted the resolution creating
(remember) TWO STATES.

And probably one can find arguments about the general "national question"
which justifies the creation of a state in Palestine called ISRAEL ---

however with 20-20 hindsight (and buttressed by argument by the architects
of Israeli independence, particularly Ben Gurion) there is no way in any
version of Marxist theory to justify the ethnic cleansing of the "Israel"
part of Palestine of a high percentage of its Arab population --- and there
is definitely nothing to justify occupations after the Six Day War --- I
would be very surprised if any Marxist supports Israeli policy of ethnic
cleansing -- (but how knows....)

On Wed, Sep 9, 2026 at 1:45 PM Kristin Bayrd via groups.io
<[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 8, 2026 at 04:14 PM, Mark Baugher wrote:
>
> And what is this single, "global movement" that doesn't care about
> Palestinians? The people who oppose Israeli settler colonialism and the
> dispossession of Arab lands go back very far in the Marxist traditions and
> also on this list;
>
>
>
>
> The people who *support* Israel go very far back in the Marxist tradition
> and also on this list. If Marxists agreed about everything, every response
> to every post would just say “Ditto”.
>
>
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