On Fri, 11 Aug 2006, J Cook wrote:

>    How come you're not coming out with something Rails-like? You have
> Mason and Alzabo, throw these two thing together with some glue(don't
> ask me how) and you got the newest, hippest, web 2.5 MVC framework to
> make all the coders swoon.

Heh, it takes a lot more than constituent underlying bits.

My own take on a MVC-ish framework, such as it is, is MasonX::WebApp. 
Recently, I've been reconsidering how that's architected, though. It 
combines a lot of disparate bits under one API, and may be better off 
broken up into separate re-usable pieces.

> Seriously, in your opinion what would it take to get something like that
> going? I've tried both Jifty and Catalyst and I think Catalyst is the
> more mature of the two, but I don't understand their preference with
> Template Toolkit.

Just for fun, I recently wrote a small app using Catalyst. I even used 
DBIx::Class for the model, though haven't used it once I don't think I 
would want to do so again. I did use Mason for the view, and I really 
liked some aspects of Catalyst.

AFAICT, Catalyst's integration with the model part of the code is somewhat 
minimal, expect for plugins like Catalyst::Plugin::Session::Store::DBIC, 
which I used. It'd be quite easy to plug Alzabo into that sort of 
framework if I wanted, and if I were to use Catalyst again, that's 
probably what I'd do.

My recommendation would be to use Catalyst or Jifty with Mason. As far as 
models go, DBIx::Class will probably work for most people, I just have 
some fundamental disagreements with its assumptions (OT for this list).


-dave

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