Ok perfect. But in fact I may have found solution where it may be not at all 
needed finally and still understand all the encodings possible (in fact in a 
terminal, there are not so many encoding conversions to be done. We don't 
necessarily need a tool as complete as iconv). But I am still not sure to 
deal with all possible cases. And for the few conversions which are 
required, there may be some X functions able to deal with it. 

But anyway I keep your authorization in mind. If I can avoid to use iconv in 
any case, I will. If not, I will just make it a permanent requirement. I 
will keep you up to date, and keep reading the source code and browsing the 
web. ;-) 

Jehan 

Terminator writes: 

> iconv is already a mandatory requirement for xft. so I think to make it a
> permanent requirement shouldn't be a problem. thanks for the efforts. :-) 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 8:24 AM, jehan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
>> Apparently here is how this dependency is defined currently (configure.ac:
>> 1016): 
>>
>>  if test "x$support_xft x$support_cjk" = "xyes xyes"; then
>>      dnl BSD and Cygwin needs libiconv
>>      AC_CHECK_LIB(iconv, iconv_open)
>>      dnl hack for Mac OS X
>>      if test "x$local_os_type" = "xdarwin"; then
>>          LIBS="$LIBS -liconv"
>>      fi
>>      dnl hack for Cygwin
>>      if test "x$local_os_type" = "xcygwin"; then
>>          LIBS="$LIBS -liconv"
>>      fi
>>      dnl hack for Cygwin
>>      if test "x$local_os_type" = "xopenbsd"; then
>>          LIBS="$LIBS -liconv"
>>      fi
>>  fi 
>>
>> So what I understand here is that this is mandatory when you have Darwin,
>> Cygwin or OpenBSD and not used at all in any other case, is this it? 
>>
>> But then what is the following part of the configure.ac:1070 : 
>>
>> AC_CHECK_HEADERS( \
>>  arpa/inet.h \
>>  assert.h \
>>  fcntl.h \
>>  iconv.h \
>> [...]
>> ) 
>>
>> ??? Shouldn't the AC_CHECK_HEADER be inside the "if" (darwin, or cygwin or
>> openbsd)? Here it would check for existence of this header in any case, no?
>> So this is already a mandatory lib? 
>>
>> I am not sure to understand everything because I am not an expert of
>> autoconf/automake (I only used these tools once for a small project
>> something like 2 years ago, so I don't remember well all this...).
>> See you! 
>>
>> Jehan 
>>
>> jehan writes: 
>>
>> > Hello all,
>> >
>> > about libiconv, could we consider to use it as a mandatory dependency?
>> Here
>> > are several reasons why it would be a good thing:
>> >
>> > 1/ I think it can be found anyway on most Linux and Unix machines. As far
>> as
>> > I know, it is part of POSIX (so all we should do is to take care of not
>> use
>> > options from specific implementations, if any, as the GNU one, but the
>> > generic standard functions only)...
>> >
>> > 2/ With the new design of mrxvt I have in mind, this would enable to have
>> a
>> > single generic logic, whatever locale you may use, as long as it is
>> > supported by their iconv implementation.
>> > If you have a look to the GNU implementation for instance, it has a
>> fairly
>> > broad number of encodings: http://www.gnu.org/software/libiconv/
>> > And mrxvt would just support all this as well!
>> >
>> > 3/ As a last resort, I could use again a compiler #ifdef check depending
>> or
>> > not whether the configure found a libiconv on the computer. This way it
>> > could still compile without this. But I don't think this is a good
>> solution
>> > as it let think that it may work also without iconv. But the reality is
>> that
>> > currently our implementation is broken for most "common" encodings. Just
>> > have a look at encoding.c, and you will see that most encodings are
>> > processed the same way (rxvt_decode_dummy), which means "badly" decoded,
>> > simply (even the ISO-8859-X encodings, typical for most european
>> languages,
>> > are in fact badly supported for the most part).
>> >
>> > Using obligatory libiconv will just fix all this in one single shot.
>> Keeping
>> > separate alternatives will need people to try to make a decoding function
>> > for every encoding, which may never happen, and is at the end only
>> > "rewriting" libiconv after all... so what is the interest?
>> >
>> > So what is your opinion?
>> >
>> > Jehan
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