Blue print ಬದಲು ಆ ಪಾಠದ ಅಂಕ ಮಾತ್ರ ಸಾಕು. On Apr 9, 2016 5:01 PM, "SREENIVASA T R" <[email protected]> wrote:
> ಪ್ರತಿ ಬಾರಿಯೂ ಇದೇ ಸಮಸ್ಯೆ ಏತಕ್ಕ್ೆ ನೀಲಿನಕ್ಷೆ ಕೊಡಬೇಕು ಅದರ ಬದಲು ಅವರಿಷ್ಟಕ್ಕೆ > ನೀಡಿದರೆ ಒಳ್ಳೆಯ ದು > On Apr 9, 2016 12:48, "Shashidhar Kumbar" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Resp sir.. If only Understanding level Qn asking than what's the hel... >> Board giving Blue Print and asking us teach (S.U.K.A. etc) in all aspect, >> bring the best among in students.. >> In rural we teaching students where they are blank and below average. I >> think few of our dear Teachers who's opinion +ve most of them are Urban Pvt >> or Conments or English medium.. >> On Apr 8, 2016 9:12 PM, "Mallesha MR" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> donot worry, already it is ended matter >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 8:58 PM, Kolaronline Klr <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> science paper ge ee bari grace marks kodalebeku antha ella science >>>> teachers kelbeku enanthira >>>> >>>> On 8 April 2016 at 20:40, Gurumurthy K <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear Subramani sir >>>>> >>>>> thank you for your reply. It is exactly connected to what I was saying. >>>>> >>>>> I agree that there are many pressures on teachers to take the 'short >>>>> cut' of drill/pass package instead of the 'more difficult' path of >>>>> conceptual understanding - the quantum of syllabus is too much, the >>>>> education system/department does not encourage conceptual learning but >>>>> puts >>>>> pressure on exam results, teachers knowledge of pedagogies and concepts >>>>> may >>>>> also need to be improved but teacher training programs are not effective. >>>>> and teacher educators themselves may not know better. >>>>> >>>>> However, having said the above, I feel strongly that teachers must >>>>> take the path of teaching their students conceptual understanding and >>>>> abandon the drill/pass package method/route which only fails the >>>>> children.... this is not just my opinion, this is the spirit of NCF 2005, >>>>> so it is national policy as well. >>>>> >>>>> Children are in school to learn, develop conceptual understanding >>>>> which is necessary for application in real life. >>>>> >>>>> In my opinion, learning is not equal to drill / pass packages. I am >>>>> making a statement that will not be liked by some, but drill and pass >>>>> packages only end up cheating the children. Also drill methods make >>>>> students dislike the subject. Whereas if students learn science through >>>>> the >>>>> right approaches (learning science by doing, exploring science curiously, >>>>> building models to understand nature, developing a scientific temper etc >>>>> ....). 'Good' Indian students are well known for their ability to parrot >>>>> out content but with very poor ability to apply it in real life >>>>> situations. >>>>> what use is that bookish knowledge. >>>>> >>>>> And I say this with the knowledge that there are many teachers in our >>>>> Karnataka GHS, who are trying the path of conceptual learning and >>>>> succeeding as well. Their experiences and learnings can guide us well. Let >>>>> us give up the pass package approach... this I am saying not only for >>>>> science but for all subjects. I request teachers like Shashi Kumar sir, >>>>> Mohan sir, Radha Madam, Gulzar madam (and hundreds of other such teachers >>>>> who are members of this group) who have been adopting different approaches >>>>> to help students really develop conceptual understanding of science, to >>>>> share their experiences and methods, which can help all teachers. >>>>> >>>>> Once again, Subramani sir, thanks for frankly sharing your views, so >>>>> that we can debate and discuss the issue fully and understand one another. >>>>> >>>>> regards, >>>>> Guru >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> IT for Change, Bengaluru >>>>> www.ITforChange.net >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 7:42 PM, Subramani V <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> @gurumurthy sir. Even I didn't see d paper. M y students discussed >>>>>> questions wit me. I came to a conclusion that they are beyond d level a >>>>>> 10th grade students. No its our turn to think >>>>>> 1)hav v taught d concepts to that level. >>>>>> 2)is d time provided enough to us to teach Dat much deep about d >>>>>> concept. >>>>>> 3)can d rural below average students can think such deep into d >>>>>> concept. >>>>>> 4)we have given passpackages for drill. Was Dat came helpful to den. >>>>>> 5)below average students complained Dat no questions came from d pass >>>>>> packages wat v hav given for drill. >>>>>> On Apr 8, 2016 4:58 PM, "chiranjeevi khethavath" < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear sir not only this year. every year science question paper was >>>>>>> not difficult to our teachers.compare to other subject QP,sc QP is >>>>>>> little >>>>>>> bit difficult to rural Kannada medium students, they took passmark but >>>>>>> cont get more marks >>>>>>> On Apr 8, 2016 2:04 PM, "Gurumurthy K" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> dear Sunil sir >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> in my opinion, it is not useful to have a vote on this issue - that >>>>>>>> will only tell us how many people agree/disagree (summative >>>>>>>> information) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> what will be more useful for all teachers is if we can analyse why >>>>>>>> we feel it was difficult, i can suggest some points for the discussion >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1. was the question paper having questions on topics not part of >>>>>>>> the syllabus >>>>>>>> 2. was the question forcing students to think and apply what they >>>>>>>> learnt ... and not focusing on producing information from rote memory >>>>>>>> 3. was the level of Kannada language difficult to understand. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> i have not seen the science paper. But my doubt is as follows - >>>>>>>> if the question paper is not encouraging students to write from >>>>>>>> rote memory but forcing them to think and apply what they have learnt >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> answering, I think it may be difficult but it is good. Here the >>>>>>>> question is >>>>>>>> as teachers, are we making students memorise content, or are we helping >>>>>>>> them understand concepts which they can apply as per the question in >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> exam. as per the national curricular framework 2005 science position >>>>>>>> paper, >>>>>>>> one of the problems in science teaching is that we teach facts to be >>>>>>>> memorised by students. whereas the facts (content) is to be used for >>>>>>>> helping conceptual understanding. for eg. while teaching periodic >>>>>>>> table, it >>>>>>>> can be simply taught as a table to be memorised. where student needs to >>>>>>>> memorise (by heart) the atomic number of 100+ elements and see how >>>>>>>> they can >>>>>>>> be placed in the table. or it can be learn by exploring 'how is matter >>>>>>>> around us structured? what is the concept of an element? are there a >>>>>>>> finite >>>>>>>> number of elements? what does an element signify - physically, >>>>>>>> chemically? >>>>>>>> how did scientists try to address these questions, what answers did >>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>> give? here science becomes a method to understand nature, build >>>>>>>> models. not >>>>>>>> as a set of boring facts ... the question papers also should gradually >>>>>>>> move >>>>>>>> from content / memory testing to testing conceptual understanding. >>>>>>>> (this >>>>>>>> applies to all subjects, not only science). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> again, as I said, I have not seen the question paper, so this is >>>>>>>> only an opinion. I will be interested to hear your responses to my >>>>>>>> thoughts >>>>>>>> and also your own understanding of why the paper is being seen as >>>>>>>> difficult >>>>>>>> by many teachers. perhaps such a qualitative discussion (on the reasons >>>>>>>> etc) can help us understand how we can become better science teachers >>>>>>>> next >>>>>>>> year... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> regards >>>>>>>> Guru, IT for Change >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> IT for Change, Bengaluru >>>>>>>> www.ITforChange.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 6:09 PM, sunilsringeri revanker < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> LETS HV VOTE >>>>>>>>> On Apr 5, 2016 1:50 PM, "shashikumarcrkumar" < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> 1. 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