I've cleared the doubt..

thank u very much sir

Aman

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Aman Bansal <[email protected]>wrote:

> Dear Sir
>
> Is there any need to scale down the demand functions for dispatchable
> loads i.e. divide c and d by maximum dispatchable load and then add their
> negatives to respective cost functions of generators (a and b) that lie on
> same bus?
>
> AMAN
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Aman Bansal <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Thank you Prof !!
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 7:51 AM, Ray Zimmerman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> The total cost for a dispatchable load is negative … the marginal cost
>>> is positive. But, yes, the overall cost of "generation" at a bus could be
>>> negative if you are adding together the costs of actual generators and
>>> dispatchable loads. In fact, the total "cost" is now the negative of the
>>> net benefit, so it could be a very large negative number.
>>>
>>>  --
>>> Ray Zimmerman
>>> Senior Research Associate
>>> 419A Warren Hall, Cornell University, Ithaca, NY 14853
>>> phone: (607) 255-9645
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 22, 2013, at 12:30 AM, Aman Bansal <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Prof.
>>>
>>> Last question, like we have represented dispatchable loads as negative
>>> generation, what about their cost functions?
>>>
>>> I mean a & b for dispatchable loads will also be considered as negative?
>>>
>>> if yes this may result in overall negative cost function for the
>>> generation at a particular bus...
>>>
>>> thanks sir
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Ray Zimmerman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> For multiple generators and dispatchable loads at a bus, you simply
>>>> have multiple injections, let's call them p1, p2, …, pn, and each has a
>>>> cost f1(p1), f2(p2), … fn(pn). To get the aggregate cost function you
>>>> simply add everything together. Let p = p1+ p2 + … + pn be the aggregate
>>>> injection and f(p) = f1(p1) + f2(p2) + ... + fn(pn) be the total cost
>>>> function.
>>>>
>>>>  --
>>>> Ray Zimmerman
>>>> Senior Research Associate
>>>> 419A Warren Hall, Cornell University, Ithaca, NY 14853
>>>> phone: (607) 255-9645
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 21, 2013, at 3:20 AM, Aman Bansal <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Prof. Zimmerman
>>>>
>>>> But in case when a generator and a price sensitive load lie on same
>>>> bus, then if we denote price sensitive load as negative of generation, then
>>>> what is the effective cost function at that bus is both generator and
>>>> dispatchable load have different cost functions.....
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 8:16 PM, Ray Zimmerman <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You can still easily create a matrix that corresponds to only the real
>>>>> generators (dimension 6 in your example). There is a lot of internal code
>>>>> that does something like …
>>>>>
>>>>> ig = find(~isload(mpc.gen));
>>>>>
>>>>> … and then uses ig to index the generator and gencost matrices to get
>>>>> info only for the real generators.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>  Ray Zimmerman
>>>>> Senior Research Associate
>>>>> 419A Warren Hall, Cornell University, Ithaca, NY 14853
>>>>> phone: (607) 255-9645
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 20, 2013, at 2:54 AM, Aman Bansal <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Prof. Zimmerman
>>>>>
>>>>> I just realized from the manual that dispatchable or price-sensitive
>>>>> loads are modelled as negative real power injections with associated 
>>>>> costs.
>>>>> But if we represent them as generators instead of loads (which they are
>>>>> actually), the flow participation matrix (that is obtained from power
>>>>> tracing) get affected. Like consider we have 6 gencos in problem and there
>>>>> are 5 price sensitive loads, then generator participation matrix would
>>>>> become 11*x instead of 6*x.
>>>>>
>>>>> How to deal with this??
>>>>>
>>>>> please enlighten me
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Aman Bansal,
>>>>> M.Tech. Student (Power Systems)
>>>>> Indian Institute of Technology (BHU)
>>>>> Varanasi
>>>>> Cell No. +91-841-799-9350
>>>>>
>>>>> **The smallest good deed is better than the grandest good intention**
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Aman Bansal,
>>>> M.Tech. Student (Power Systems)
>>>> Indian Institute of Technology (BHU)
>>>> Varanasi
>>>> Cell No. +91-912-569-8850, 841-799-9350
>>>>
>>>> **The smallest good deed is better than the grandest good intention**
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Aman Bansal,
>>> M.Tech. Student (Power Systems)
>>> Indian Institute of Technology (BHU)
>>> Varanasi
>>> Cell No. +91-912-569-8850, 841-799-9350
>>>
>>> **The smallest good deed is better than the grandest good intention**
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Aman Bansal,
>> M.Tech. Student (Power Systems)
>> Indian Institute of Technology (BHU)
>> Varanasi
>> Cell No. +91-912-569-8850, 841-799-9350
>>
>> **The smallest good deed is better than the grandest good intention**
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Aman Bansal,
> M.Tech. Student (Power Systems)
> Indian Institute of Technology (BHU)
> Varanasi
> Cell No. +91-841-799-9350
>
> **The smallest good deed is better than the grandest good intention**
>



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Indian Institute of Technology (BHU)
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