Since Nils' "when the recording is finished" could be interpreted to mean "when capture is complete", I wanted to make sure folks understood that we're not completely missing editing features. Yes, edit/delete post-publishing are critical features. I don't think anyone would disagree. For reference, these are some user stories that address this: MH-2811As an Admin, I need to republish recordings to Matterhorn Media Module with updated media and metadata. MH-5459 As an admin, when I update a series, its distributed recordings series metadata should be updated. MH-2815 As an Admin, I need to be able to remove recordings from distribution channel(s) after they've been published Now we just need people who have time to work on these...
Judy On Apr 30, 2011, at 4:01 PM, Schulte Olaf A. wrote: > Hello Judy > >> There *is* a chance to edit metadata after recording: when it's in the >> Review/Trim >> hold state. You don't have to delete and reingest. (And yes, this only >> applies to >> the individual Recording...we still are missing Series editing. I believe >> Josh/Micah >> have an idea of what is needed to correctly do Series editing and perhaps can >> chime in with a clear explanation of why it's not so simple...my >> understanding is >> that has to do with all the places that series metadata changes needs to be >> made, >> i.e. all the related mediapackages, distributed recordings, etc....) Another >> option, >> I'd think, is to write a custom workflow, if you need to define a different >> point in the >> flow when metadata edits could happen. >> Just so I understand the need better, who is the user in question? The >> instructor in >> the classroom or an admin that makes the edits requested by the instructor? >> If the >> latter, is there a problem with using the Review/Trim hold state for this? >> (If the >> former, we need to acknowledge that Matterhorn 1 had administrators, >> configurers, >> and learners as users. We didn't try to design for instructors.) > > If I understand (Nils) correctly, we're talking about media already being > published with someone (could be the instructor, could be a student or any > other user) complaining about faulty metadata. So review/trim is not helpful, > is it? And yes, these complaints occur with series as often as they occur > with individual recordings from my experience. > > Regards > > Olaf A. > > >> On Apr 29, 2011, at 9:02 AM, Nils Birnbaum wrote: >> >> >> Just from my point of view, 90% of request for edit metadata came from >> lecturer when the recording is finished. So no chance to edit. Deleting and >> re- >> ingest is no real option at all (I mean just from point of satisfy someone >> to use >> Matterhorn it sounds poor to say that this is our soulution for typos in >> Seriens and >> mediaobject Metadata). >> >> So what's the biggest problem developing this feature and who has the >> knowledge to define all necessary steps in the developing process to >> estimate the >> needed manpower? >> >> Regards >> Nils >> >> On 29.04.11 00:12, Judy Stern wrote: >> >> I can't quickly find the original mail so I may be taking this >> out of >> context and I may be stating the obvious (to those contributing to the >> thread, but >> not necessarily to those lurking): >> >> By "submitted", does this mean "already published"? If so, then >> I >> agree that there is no way to delete or edit what's already been published. >> But if "submitted" means "uploaded", there *is* a way to edit >> metadata, i.e. when it is in its Review hold state. It can also be "Ignored" >> (i.e. >> deleted from the UI...) in this state. >> >> In other words, I agree that we are missing many edit/delete >> features, but want folks aware that there *are* some avenues for editing and >> deletion. Getting the full edit/delete feature set in would be ideal, and we >> hope >> folks will step up to add these. (If anyone has the bandwidth to help add >> these, >> let's talk on list or in a meeting or at an EditFest. See >> http://opencast.jira.com/wiki/display/MH/1.2+Delete+Options for the full >> range of >> what we had hoped to accomplish for 1.2, but for which we currently don't >> have >> development resources.) >> >> Judy >> >> On Apr 27, 2011, at 11:28 PM, Nils Birnbaum wrote: >> >> >> On 26.04.11 22:21, Josh Holtzman wrote: >> >> Surprisingly, with the 1.1 Admin tool >> there >> is still no way (that I saw) to delete or edit (e.g. change the Title) of a >> submitted >> recording, pretty basic admin functionality supported on most other video >> portals. >> >> >> >> Yes, the edit and delete features are in much >> demand, but have still not been implemented. You are certainly not alone in >> expecting these features. >> >> I would like to step in here, what is the current plan >> to >> develop this feature. I mean it's so basic that I would await it in 1.0 or >> 1.1. It's not >> in it so you have a big problem givin Matterhorn recordings to public when >> there >> are typos in the metadata. Will it be a 1.2 feature or do we need an >> EditFest? >> Regards >> Nils >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Matterhorn-users mailing list >> [email protected] >> >> http://lists.opencastproject.org/mailman/listinfo/matterhorn- >> users >> >> >> >> >> Judy Stern >> Educational Technology Services, UC Berkeley >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Matterhorn-users mailing list >> [email protected] >> >> http://lists.opencastproject.org/mailman/listinfo/matterhorn-users >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Matterhorn-users mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.opencastproject.org/mailman/listinfo/matterhorn-users >> >> >> >> Judy Stern >> Educational Technology Services, UC Berkeley [email protected] >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Matterhorn-users mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.opencastproject.org/mailman/listinfo/matterhorn-users Judy Stern Educational Technology Services, UC Berkeley [email protected] _______________________________________________ Matterhorn-users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.opencastproject.org/mailman/listinfo/matterhorn-users
