Sorry I thought the terms we use in the UI are Matterhorn unique
Vocabularies (MuV) :-)
So just back to the topic can I interpret you answer in that way that
the project lead doesn't see this as an important feature for the
strategic product planing. It will not be part of the next upcoming
releases and it's not on the road map??
Bad news for adopters.
Regards
Nils
On 02.05.11 18:59, Judy Stern wrote:
Since Nils' "when the recording is finished" could be interpreted to mean "when
capture is complete", I wanted to make sure folks understood that we're not completely missing
editing features.
Yes, edit/delete post-publishing are critical features. I don't think anyone
would disagree.
For reference, these are some user stories that address this:
MH-2811As an Admin, I need to republish recordings to Matterhorn Media Module
with updated media and metadata.
MH-5459 As an admin, when I update a series, its distributed recordings series
metadata should be updated.
MH-2815 As an Admin, I need to be able to remove recordings from distribution
channel(s) after they've been published
Now we just need people who have time to work on these...
Judy
On Apr 30, 2011, at 4:01 PM, Schulte Olaf A. wrote:
Hello Judy
There *is* a chance to edit metadata after recording: when it's in the
Review/Trim
hold state. You don't have to delete and reingest. (And yes, this only applies
to
the individual Recording...we still are missing Series editing. I believe
Josh/Micah
have an idea of what is needed to correctly do Series editing and perhaps can
chime in with a clear explanation of why it's not so simple...my understanding
is
that has to do with all the places that series metadata changes needs to be
made,
i.e. all the related mediapackages, distributed recordings, etc....) Another
option,
I'd think, is to write a custom workflow, if you need to define a different
point in the
flow when metadata edits could happen.
Just so I understand the need better, who is the user in question? The
instructor in
the classroom or an admin that makes the edits requested by the instructor? If
the
latter, is there a problem with using the Review/Trim hold state for this? (If
the
former, we need to acknowledge that Matterhorn 1 had administrators,
configurers,
and learners as users. We didn't try to design for instructors.)
If I understand (Nils) correctly, we're talking about media already being
published with someone (could be the instructor, could be a student or any
other user) complaining about faulty metadata. So review/trim is not helpful,
is it? And yes, these complaints occur with series as often as they occur with
individual recordings from my experience.
Regards
Olaf A.
On Apr 29, 2011, at 9:02 AM, Nils Birnbaum wrote:
Just from my point of view, 90% of request for edit metadata came from
lecturer when the recording is finished. So no chance to edit. Deleting and re-
ingest is no real option at all (I mean just from point of satisfy someone to
use
Matterhorn it sounds poor to say that this is our soulution for typos in
Seriens and
mediaobject Metadata).
So what's the biggest problem developing this feature and who has the
knowledge to define all necessary steps in the developing process to estimate
the
needed manpower?
Regards
Nils
On 29.04.11 00:12, Judy Stern wrote:
I can't quickly find the original mail so I may be taking this
out of
context and I may be stating the obvious (to those contributing to the thread,
but
not necessarily to those lurking):
By "submitted", does this mean "already published"? If so, then
I
agree that there is no way to delete or edit what's already been published.
But if "submitted" means "uploaded", there *is* a way to edit
metadata, i.e. when it is in its Review hold state. It can also be "Ignored"
(i.e.
deleted from the UI...) in this state.
In other words, I agree that we are missing many edit/delete
features, but want folks aware that there *are* some avenues for editing and
deletion. Getting the full edit/delete feature set in would be ideal, and we
hope
folks will step up to add these. (If anyone has the bandwidth to help add these,
let's talk on list or in a meeting or at an EditFest. See
http://opencast.jira.com/wiki/display/MH/1.2+Delete+Options for the full range
of
what we had hoped to accomplish for 1.2, but for which we currently don't have
development resources.)
Judy
On Apr 27, 2011, at 11:28 PM, Nils Birnbaum wrote:
On 26.04.11 22:21, Josh Holtzman wrote:
Surprisingly, with the 1.1 Admin tool
there
is still no way (that I saw) to delete or edit (e.g. change the Title) of a
submitted
recording, pretty basic admin functionality supported on most other video
portals.
Yes, the edit and delete features are in much
demand, but have still not been implemented. You are certainly not alone in
expecting these features.
I would like to step in here, what is the current plan
to
develop this feature. I mean it's so basic that I would await it in 1.0 or 1.1.
It's not
in it so you have a big problem givin Matterhorn recordings to public when there
are typos in the metadata. Will it be a 1.2 feature or do we need an EditFest?
Regards
Nils
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