I have created an issue in Jira
(MH-9180<http://opencast.jira.com/browse/MH-9180>),
and committed a patch for review at
CR-MH-481<http://opencast.jira.com/source/cru/CR-MH-481> .
Please do not hesitate to join the review and check if this works with the
typical streaming servers.

Rubén Pérez
TELTEK Video Research
www.teltek.es



2012/9/4 Rubén Pérez <[email protected]>

> That was exactly my point. I didn't want to go and modify this and break
> it for the users of other streaming servers. I don't know if I should just
> commit it (and potentially break the trunk), or create a bug and attach it
> to this email, or perhaps to a bug report in Jira, I'm not sure.
>
>
> Rubén Pérez
> TELTEK Video Research
> www.teltek.es
>
>
>
> 2012/9/4 Ruediger Rolf <[email protected]>
>
>>  Hi Ruben,
>>
>> the current implementation works for us (with Wowza 3). MP4-Streaming
>> with Red5 does not work properly so it cannot really be tested. If the
>> behaviour of FMS is different. As you are a commiter and have the needed
>> FMS server why don't you fix this bug. I am willing to do a code review and
>> do some testing on Wowza.
>>
>> Rüdiger
>>
>> Am 04.09.2012 18:30, schrieb Rubén Pérez:
>>
>> I'm bringing this back to life because I'm seeing this bug has not been
>> corrected in the 1.4.x branch --the "mp4" prefix is still added before the
>> filename, and not right after the "application" part of the URL.
>>
>>  However, I see an additional problem in FMS. For some reason I am
>> unable to comprehend, you can NOT specify the .flv suffix in the FLV files,
>> or they won't play. There is no way of disabling or changing this
>> "feature". If, we use the "flv:" format, the stream plays perfectly, as
>> long as you don't provide the extension at all i.e.
>>
>>  rtmp://my.fms.server/demo/route/to/the/video.flv
>>
>>  doesn't work,
>>
>>  rtmp://my.fms.server/demo/flv:route/to/the/video.flv
>>
>>  doesn't work either, but
>>
>>  rtmp://my.fms.server/demo/flv:route/to/the/video
>>
>>
>>  I checked this with .mp4 videos and the result is that 1 and 3 work.
>>
>>  My question is: does the 3rd option work for the other streaming
>> servers, too. Because if it does, we have found a general way of writing
>> the streaming URLs which is independent from the server used, i.e. to
>> stream the file
>>
>>  route/to/the/video.ext
>>
>>  we use the URL
>>
>>  rtmp://url.to.the.server/application_name/ext:route/to/the/video
>>
>>  Can any of you confirm this?
>>
>>  Regards
>>
>>  Rubén Pérez
>> TELTEK Video Research
>> www.teltek.es
>>
>>
>>
>> 2012/4/13 Rute Santos <[email protected]>
>>
>>>  Hi Leslaw,
>>>
>>>     I've just updated the ticket.
>>>     Thanks,
>>>
>>>     Rute
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/13/2012 5:07 AM, Leslaw Zieleznik wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Rute,
>>>
>>>  Did you open a ticket in JIRA as Tobias suggested, to apply the
>>> recommended format of the rpm link for Wowza and FMS?
>>>
>>>  Regards,
>>> Leslaw
>>>
>>>
>>>  On 11 Apr 2012, at 18:19, Rute Santos wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hi,
>>>
>>>     Looking at the Wowza tutorial link below, it seems that Wowza also
>>> needs the "mp4:" after the application name and before the directory path
>>> in the rtmp link. The only difference from FMS seems to be that it requires
>>> the "_definst_" instance name, which FMS assumes by default if no instance
>>> is informed:
>>>
>>> http://www.wowza.com/forums/content.php?35#playback
>>>
>>> This is the relevant note:
>>>
>>> *Note:* To play content that is not at the root of the content folder
>>> you must add the default application instance name to the URL. For example
>>> if you have a file at the path *
>>> [install-dir]/content/myvideos/sample.mp4*, the URLs for the different
>>> stream technologies are:
>>>
>>> *Flash player* (RTMP)
>>>  Code:
>>>
>>> Server: rtmp://[wowza-address]/vod
>>> Stream: mp4:myvideos/sample.mp4
>>>
>>> Single URL: rtmp://[wowza-address]/vod/_definst_/mp4:myvideos/sample.mp4
>>>
>>>
>>>     Thus, an rtmp link in the form:
>>> rtmp://server/matterhorn-engage/_definst_/mp4:dir1/dir2/file.mp4 should
>>> work with both FMS and Wowza.
>>>
>>>     Thanks,
>>>
>>>     Rute
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/9/2012 11:37 AM, Rute Santos wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Ruben, Hank,
>>>
>>>     I was looking at the Wowza documentation and it also has the concept
>>> of "application" as FMS does. So, I am just wondering if Wowza accepts both
>>> forms? I recall Hank said that the rtmp link is working with Wowza as is,
>>> but I was wondering if he could try to use the other form and see if it
>>> works too? I am curious...
>>>     Thanks,
>>>
>>>     Rute
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/9/2012 11:33 AM, Hank Magnuski wrote:
>>>
>>> The "application" convention is certainly present in Wowza and I believe
>>> Red5 as well.
>>>
>>> Hank
>>>
>>> 2012/4/9 Rubén Pérez <[email protected]>
>>>
>>>> It would be interesting to know if Wowza is effectively following the
>>>> same convention. We have already have bizarre integration problems with FMS
>>>> because it follows its own conventions as to the syntax of the media to
>>>> stream.
>>>>
>>>>  We would be happy to have that patch attached to the main source
>>>> code, since we are FMS users ourselves, but I think we shouldn't stick to a
>>>> certain notation if it's not shared by the popular streaming alternatives,
>>>> too (I'm not saying it's not, just willing to get confirmation of it). I
>>>> may be wrong here, but "application" seems like an internal FMS concept,
>>>> which may not be share by other streaming servers. It also seems to me like
>>>> an unnatural place to put the tag (I'd rather expect it to be before the
>>>> filename or at the beginning of the URL), that's why I'm trying to be
>>>> cautious here.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> 2012/4/9 Tobias Wunden <[email protected]>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Rute,
>>>>>
>>>>> >    We use FMS here with our current system to stream mp4 files and
>>>>> the "mp4:" tag should come after the application name. So, if the file
>>>>> resides several directory levels below e.g. dir1/dir2/file.mp4, the rtmp
>>>>> link should contain "/app_name/mp4:dir1/dir2/file.mp4" and not
>>>>> "app_name/dir1/dir2/mp4:file.mp4". The links you list below don't have
>>>>> examples with many levels of directories. I don't know about Wowza, but I
>>>>> bet it is the same :)
>>>>> >    I have a patch for this if anyone is interested (how should I
>>>>> submit it?)
>>>>>
>>>>>  We are certainly interested to apply your patch if you've go this
>>>>> working! The correct for submitting patches is the following:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) Open a ticket in JIRA describing your problem.
>>>>> 2) Us the "attach" function to attach your patch
>>>>>
>>>>> Also feel free to let the developers (on
>>>>> [email protected]) know that you've submitted a patch
>>>>> and would welcome feedback and integration (optional step :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Tobias
>>>>>
>>>>>
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