Hi all,
the idea to point to an app in case the user is using a smartphone or
pad came from our tests with a HTML5 player component for Matterhorn.
The current flash player works at least on Android devices, with a poor
usability. The HTML5 player with multi-stream support will
(unexpectedly) not work on Android browsers (except Opera but with a
very poor performance) and unlikely not on an iPad too.
To make this clear: with only one stream this will work just fine. But
on all Android devices and the iPhone a single video stream will be
played in fullscreen mode. On the tablets it will not go into
fullscreen, but the javascript code for syncing the videos does not work
somehow and if it works (tested with Opera on Android) only one video is
played with hardware acceleration only works for one of the videos.
To make clear to the users that such a poor user-experience is not what
we intend to offer we came to the conclusion that it might be a useful
idea to point the user to a more powerful alternative playback possibility.
I understand all concerns that our app is not an official Matterhorn
project (although I would not say that the license should have something
to do with this, cause it is still open source) and that the player only
allows the playback from registered installations (although anyone is
welcome to register its installation). But I think Nils idea would be a
good compromise, to simply make this configurable, to any other URL
(your iTunes U site, i.e.).
It was only something that we would have contributed. But as this seems
to concern several people, we will add this only to our local branch.
Regards
Rüdiger
Am 27.01.2012 11:45, schrieb Tobias Wunden:
Hi Dennis,
you will get another -1 from my side. I very much welcome the mobile
application, but since it is a development that happened outside of the project
in terms of architecture, design and development and in addition comes with its
own license, I don't think it is wise for a couple of reasons to add links to
it from the out-of-the-box Matterhorn installation:
1) It only works well for those installations that have been registered with
the developers (you).
2) It is not clear to me whether the app is a project that is officially (from a
community standpoint) a part of Matterhorn. I am not saying that it isn't, but as long as
that has not been sorted out, I see the link as a prejudice to other "related"
projects. Let's say I develop a new capture device (that you may or may not buy), and
that capture device offers a unique feature that can be reached via an http link. Would
you want to have that link in the Matterhon admin ui out of the box? I don't think so.
In my mind, those institutions that offer video that is encoded for the mobile
client will make sure to integrate links to the client into their presentation
layer (portal, page, feeds, ...). Putting the link into the engage ui out of
the box is just one more thing that is working for some but not for others.
Tobias
On 27.01.2012, at 11:06, Denis Meyer wrote:
Something like this came into my mind but Chris is obviously against it.
I think we have to vote about it.
On 1/27/12 8:47 AM, David Horwitz wrote:
An observation from an android phone user:
- When I click on a link in the browser for a youtube video I get a dialogue
asking whether I want to open the video in the browser or the youtube app, with
an option to store my preference.
Not sure if its implementable for non google property but seems a reasonable
way to approach the issue.
D
On 01/27/2012 09:40 AM, Nils Birnbaum wrote:
Some ideas that came in my mind:
An institution could have a dedicated website for mobile devices or an
app. So this has to be full customizable in the config. You need an on/off
button, off by default, and key-value pairs for the URL and the link text.
<opencas...>.mobile=on/off
<opencas...>.mobile.url=link to app or mobile site
<opencas...>.mobile.text = "Watch this episode on our mobile-site"
or
<opencas...>.mobile.text = "Watch this episode with the matterhor2go app"
Just my two cent
Nils
I meant it in the broad sense of the work, not the http sense.
Regardless, the
preference for not having this displayed as a default is still one I hold.
(and the ticket explicitly says "If so, display a link (and/or sth. else)
to the
matterhorn2go app")
Do UI changes normally go through a UX process as well? We do want to
keep
things consistent across our UIs, don't we?
Chris
Quoting Denis Meyer<[email protected]>:
The ticket does not say "redirect", it explicitly says "display a link".
Denis
On 1/26/12 10:23 PM, Christopher Brooks wrote:
Hi,
There was some brief discussion on this ticket,
http://opencast.jira.com/browse/MH-8525 , about whether the engage UI
should detect the platform of the user and redirect them to the
Matterhorn2Go app. I just want to clarify that I'm a -1 to this plan
for the following reasons:
1. Lots of tablets play Matterhorn fine.
2. matterhorn2go is not Matterhorn. It's a separate project with
a separate license. I think it's great, but it's not ECL and I don't
want to redirect users to it by default.
If this feature is going to be added then it should be able to be
disabled, and should be disabled by default. Maybe even a
"redirect_on_tablet" key that points to a URL of some kind. But it
shouldn't be redirecting to matterhorn2go by default.
(I share Hanks view that there are likely to be many similar projects
that institutions may want to brand or value-add)
Chris
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