Ruediger,

> To make clear to the users that such a poor user-experience is not
> what we intend to offer we came to the conclusion that it might be a
> useful idea to point the user to a more powerful alternative playback
> possibility.

No problem, I just think it should be configurable and something that
can be turned off.  I don't know what work is happening with HTML5 app,
will someone be addressing that at the unconference?

(I didn't see a session at the unconference about 1.4, but I was hoping
people would be getting together to talk about it)

> I understand all concerns that our app is not an official Matterhorn 
> project (although I would not say that the license should have
> something to do with this, cause it is still open source) and that

I'll be honest that I think the GPL is very very evil :)

> (although anyone is welcome to register its installation).  But I
> think Nils idea would be a good compromise, to simply make this
> configurable, to any other URL (your iTunes U site, i.e.).

Yup, sure, I like this method too.

Chris

> 
> It was only something that we would have contributed. But as this
> seems to concern several people, we will add this only to our local
> branch.
> 
> Regards
> RĂ¼diger
> 
> Am 27.01.2012 11:45, schrieb Tobias Wunden:
> > Hi Dennis,
> >
> > you will get another -1 from my side. I very much welcome the
> > mobile application, but since it is a development that happened
> > outside of the project in terms of architecture, design and
> > development and in addition comes with its own license, I don't
> > think it is wise for a couple of reasons to add links to it from
> > the out-of-the-box Matterhorn installation:
> >
> > 1) It only works well for those installations that have been
> > registered with the developers (you).
> >
> > 2) It is not clear to me whether the app is a project that is
> > officially (from a community standpoint) a part of Matterhorn. I am
> > not saying that it isn't, but as long as that has not been sorted
> > out, I see the link as a prejudice to other "related" projects.
> > Let's say I develop a new capture device (that you may or may not
> > buy), and that capture device offers a unique feature that can be
> > reached via an http link. Would you want to have that link in the
> > Matterhon admin ui out of the box? I don't think so.
> >
> > In my mind, those institutions that offer video that is encoded for
> > the mobile client will make sure to integrate links to the client
> > into their presentation layer (portal, page, feeds, ...). Putting
> > the link into the engage ui out of the box is just one more thing
> > that is working for some but not for others.
> >
> > Tobias
> >
> >
> > On 27.01.2012, at 11:06, Denis Meyer wrote:
> >
> >> Something like this came into my mind but Chris is obviously
> >> against it. I think we have to vote about it.
> >>
> >> On 1/27/12 8:47 AM, David Horwitz wrote:
> >>> An observation from an android phone user:
> >>>
> >>> - When I click on a link in the browser for a youtube video I get
> >>> a dialogue asking whether I want to open the video in the browser
> >>> or the youtube app, with an option to store my preference.
> >>>
> >>> Not sure if its implementable for non google property but seems a
> >>> reasonable way to approach the issue.
> >>>
> >>> D
> >>>
> >>> On 01/27/2012 09:40 AM, Nils Birnbaum wrote:
> >>>> Some ideas that came in my mind:
> >>>>
> >>>> An institution could have a dedicated website for mobile devices
> >>>> or an app. So this has to be full customizable in the config.
> >>>> You need an on/off button, off by default, and key-value pairs
> >>>> for the URL and the link text.
> >>>>
> >>>> <opencas...>.mobile=on/off
> >>>> <opencas...>.mobile.url=link to app or mobile site
> >>>> <opencas...>.mobile.text = "Watch this episode on our
> >>>> mobile-site"
> >>>>
> >>>> or
> >>>>
> >>>> <opencas...>.mobile.text = "Watch this episode with the
> >>>> matterhor2go app"
> >>>>
> >>>> Just my two cent
> >>>> Nils
> >>>>
> >>>>> I meant it in the broad sense of the work, not the http sense.
> >>>>> Regardless, the
> >>>>> preference for not having this displayed as a default is still
> >>>>> one I hold.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (and the ticket explicitly says "If so, display a link (and/or
> >>>>> sth. else) to the
> >>>>> matterhorn2go app")
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Do UI changes normally go through a UX process as well?  We do
> >>>>> want to keep
> >>>>> things consistent across our UIs, don't we?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Chris
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Quoting Denis Meyer<[email protected]>:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> The ticket does not say "redirect", it explicitly says
> >>>>>> "display a link".
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Denis
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 1/26/12 10:23 PM, Christopher Brooks wrote:
> >>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> There was some brief discussion on this ticket,
> >>>>>>> http://opencast.jira.com/browse/MH-8525 , about whether the
> >>>>>>> engage UI should detect the platform of the user and redirect
> >>>>>>> them to the Matterhorn2Go app.  I just want to clarify that
> >>>>>>> I'm a -1 to this plan for the following reasons:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 1. Lots of tablets play Matterhorn fine.
> >>>>>>> 2. matterhorn2go is not Matterhorn.  It's a separate project
> >>>>>>> with a separate license.  I think it's great, but it's not
> >>>>>>> ECL and I don't want to redirect users to it by default.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If this feature is going to be added then it should be able
> >>>>>>> to be disabled, and should be disabled by default.  Maybe
> >>>>>>> even a "redirect_on_tablet" key that points to a URL of some
> >>>>>>> kind.  But it shouldn't be redirecting to matterhorn2go by
> >>>>>>> default.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> (I share Hanks view that there are likely to be many similar
> >>>>>>> projects that institutions may want to brand or value-add)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Chris
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