I share Tobias' and Chris' concerns, but I also agree with Markus. Do
one-liners (or "few-liners") need a review? And who is to assign to those
reviews? And how many? A set of guidelines to create reviews is as
important as a set of guidelines to write code. Good practices, I mean.

2012/4/25 Markus Moormann <[email protected]>

> Hi,
>
> I admit that I rarely created reviews. The question is: When do I create a
> review? A lot of those tickets in the list below were fixed by me and were
> often 1 - 10 lines of code that were added/deleted, of which there are a
> lot of lines without any logic. Of course I can create a review on every
> ticket i fixed but than this will lead to a lot of extra work. I think we
> need a guideline (or is there already one?) which defines when to create a
> review. I think new features should always be reviewed where as fixes for
> a bug are difficultly to categorize.
>
> Markus
>
> > Hi Chris,
> >
> > thanks for bringing this up, as the lack of review of code amongst the co
> > mitter is concerninh to me, too.
> >
> > From my point of view, it's not the tool itself, but a lack of interest
> in
> > providing insight into one's work, most probably coupled with a lack of
> > resources when it comes to taking feedback and integrating it into the
> > code. I see people pushing in new features and the immediately move on to
> > new stuff. These features have usually not been discussed on list, nor
> are
> > they being reviewed, which on my opinion is a guarantee that both
> > Matterhorn's overall architecture and code quality will ceise to exist
> > and/or decrease even further.
> >
> > I am happy hearing suggestions from other committers pn why they don't
> > offer their code for review, also what could be done in their opinion to
> > yield more reviews and preliminary discussion around new features.
> >
> > Tobias
> >
> > On 25.04.2012, at 00:40, Christopher Brooks <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all, for 1.4 so far we have had the following crucible reviews
> >> filed:
> >>
> >> CR-MH-442
> >> CR-MH-441
> >> CR-MH-440
> >>
> >> And the following tickets completed (or worked on):
> >>
> >> Merging fixes for MH-7981, MH-7361, and MH-8736 into 1.4.x
> >> Merging fix for MH-8614 into 1.4.x
> >> Merging fix for MH-8613 into 1.4.x
> >> Merging fix for MH-8750 into 1.4.x
> >> Merging fix for MH-8769 into 1.4.x
> >> Merging fix for MH-8620 into 1.4.x
> >> Merging fix for MH-8739 into 1.4.x
> >> Merging fix for MH-8758 into 1.4.x
> >> Merging updated fix for MH-6312 into 1.4.x, with modification to build
> >> 1.4.x VMs rather than trunk.
> >> Merging fix for MH-8755 into 1.4.x
> >> Merging fix for MH-8728 into 1.4.x, Felix is now integrated into branch.
> >> Merging fix for MH-8709 into 1.4.x
> >> Merging fix for MH-8704 into 1.4.x
> >> Merging fix for MH-8485 into 1.4.x
> >> Merging fix for MH-8689 into 1.4.x
> >> Merging fix for MH-8738 into 1.4.x
> >> Merging fix for MH-8732 into 1.4.x
> >> Merging fix for MH-6856 and MH-8693 into 1.4.x
> >> Merging fix for MH-8742 into 1.4.x
> >> Merging fix for MH-8746 into 1.4.x
> >> MH-8740 - Removed unnecessary dependancy.
> >> Merging fix for MH-8723 into 1.4.x
> >> Merging fix for MH-8714 into 1.4.x
> >> Merging fix for MH-8710 into 1.4.x.
> >> Merging fix for MH-8727 into 1.4.x
> >> Merging fix for MH-8725 into 1.4.x
> >> Merging fix for MH-8697 into 1.4.x
> >>
> >> These two lists should be much closer to even.  What's the issue with
> >> people not filing reviews?  We can't seem to get any traction here, is
> >> there just no interest in it?  Are people unwilling to review other
> >> tickets?  Is cru too shitty of a tool for it?
> >>
> >> I think reviews make for better software, and make for better
> >> programmers.  But we don't do them; how come?
> >>
> >> Chris
> >> --
> >> Christopher Brooks, BSc, MSc
> >> ARIES Laboratory, University of Saskatchewan
> >>
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