Hello

I'm sorry I'm late with an update regarding the various efforts around the 
annotation service, but given the upcoming San Diego meeting and the annotation 
feature we should be able to discover in 1.4, I propose to meet in February to 
update each other. Here are some dates (8am PST / 5pm CET):

http://doodle.com/rz2fh32fizuq55ca.

Regards

Olaf A. 

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Schulte Olaf A.
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 20. November 2012 13:58
> An: 'Matterhorn Users'; Opencast Matterhorn; Opencast Community
> Cc: 'Matjaz Rihtar <[email protected]> ([email protected])';
> '[email protected]'
> Betreff: Annotation Service(s) in/for Matterhorn
> 
> A short summary of yesterday's meeting, which was targeted at updating various
> parties about the work underway in the domain of video annotations/comments.
> 
> UOS (Rüdiger, Martin)
> Working on an annotation feature in 1.4 with the standard annotation end 
> point;
> public annotations only. Can be activated per series.
> - comments on timeline
> - comments in list.
> - annotation on slides, activated by double-clicking
> - annotation stored annotation end point (value field)
> - not integrated with search (yet), but searching annotations is possible 
> (depending
> on performance)
> - Looking into export option to comply with
> http://www.w3.org/community/openannotation/
> 
> Greg
> Thesis work on video editor will use existing annotation feature from UOS. 
> Adds
> private features.
> 
> ETH/Entwine
> Working on an annotation feature for textual and (mainly) structured 
> annotation:
> Instructors provide (groups of) labels so students use these to structure the 
> video
> according to the specifications given; or students create their own set of 
> labels
> according to what they see in the video. Includes editors for labels, 
> Likert-scales
> for variables, overall more "scientific" with an export option for annotation 
> values
> to be analysed statistically. Cf. http://entwinemedia.github.com/annotations/.
> Not coupled with Matterhorn, but with any video player (player adapters exist 
> for
> HTML5 and Flash; https://github.com/entwinemedia/annotations/wiki/Player-
> adapter-API).
> 
> Koemei
> Tobias/Xavier, could you possibly update us with respect to the work for/by
> Koemei?
> 
> Carlos (UPV) is looking for an annotation feature to enrich their HTML5 video
> player "Paella"
> Matjaz (JSI) is looking for a performing infrastructure to support 
> transcripts,
> translations plus crowdsourced translations (kind of annotation/comment) for
> http://translectures.eu/.
> 
> Recording:
> http://m5.blindsidenetworks.com/playback/slides/playback.html?meetingId=f14a07
> f85101b90354d6fc2c800ff6d186e0a8d7-1353340610662.
> 
> Questions/issues
> - searchability of annotations in conjunction with / complimentary to / 
> separate
> from existing (slide) search
> - role of MPEG-7
> - how to integrate search results to UI
> - other parties interested in this service
> 
> Next meeting in December.
> 
> O
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Schulte Olaf A.
> > Gesendet: Sonntag, 18. November 2012 21:30
> > An: Matterhorn Users
> > Cc: 'Matjaz Rihtar <[email protected]> ([email protected])';
> > '[email protected]'
> > Betreff: AW: [Matterhorn-users] About the Annotation Service
> >
> > Greg reminded me to remind you we're meeting tomorrow/today
> >
> > Monday, November 19th - usual time (8am to 5pm) - in BBB room no. 1
> >
> > to discuss and coordinate various approaches to annotations. Maybe
> > those who have been / are working in this domain could shortly report
> > on where they are plus a screenshot / URL for people to figure out what 
> > kind of
> annotation where talking.
> >
> > O
> >
> >
> > >-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > >Von: Schulte Olaf A.
> > >Gesendet: Freitag, 9. November 2012 11:44
> > >An: 'Matterhorn Users'
> > >Cc: 'Matjaz Rihtar <[email protected]> ([email protected])';
> > >'[email protected]'
> > >Betreff: AW: [Matterhorn-users] About the Annotation Service
> > >
> > >So we'll meet Monday, November 19th - usual time (8am to 5pm) - in
> > >BBB room
> > no.
> > >1.
> > >
> > >O
> > >
> > >>-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > >>Von: Schulte Olaf A.
> > >>Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. November 2012 17:34
> > >>An: Matterhorn Users
> > >>Betreff: AW: [Matterhorn-users] About the Annotation Service
> > >>
> > >>Seems to be all I'm doing these days...
> > >>
> > >>http://doodle.com/x2xdnznkt4hmvr9m.
> > >>
> > >>O
> > >>
> > >>>-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > >>>Von: [email protected]
> > >>>[mailto:matterhorn-users- [email protected]] Im Auftrag
> > >>>von Ruediger Rolf
> > >>>Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. November 2012 17:15
> > >>>An: Matterhorn Users
> > >>>Betreff: Re: [Matterhorn-users] About the Annotation Service
> > >>>
> > >>>Unfortunatly I don't have time on November 14th. Thursday the 15th
> > >>>in that week would work for me.
> > >>>
> > >>>Rüdiger
> > >>>
> > >>>Am 08.11.2012 11:13, schrieb Carlos Turro Ribalta:
> > >>>> I agree.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Wednesday, November 14th is OK for me
> > >>>>
> > >>>> C.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> -----Mensaje original-----
> > >>>> De: [email protected]
> > >>>> [mailto:matterhorn-users-
> > >>>[email protected]] En nombre de Schulte Olaf A.
> > >>>> Enviado el: jueves, 08 de noviembre de 2012 10:11
> > >>>> Para: Matterhorn Users
> > >>>> Asunto: Re: [Matterhorn-users] About the Annotation Service
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Allow me to chime in. As announced earlier [1], Entwine is
> > >>>> working on a service for
> > >>>structured annotations for ETH Zurich and other Swiss universities.
> > >>>Together with earlier (and current?) work from Osnabruck, Greg's
> > >>>thesis work and Carlos' latest announcement, this makes it an issue
> > >>>we should probably coordinate more formally to avoid overlaps and
> > >>>problems. How about a meeting next week, Wednesday, November 14th
> > >>>(same time as
> > >>developers' meeting)?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> O
> > >>>>
> > >>>> [1]
> > >>>> http://opencast.3480289.n2.nabble.com/Opencast-Question-re-quot-L
> > >>>> ea
> > >>>> r
> > >>>> n
> > >>>> i
> > >>>> ng-Analytics-amp-Matterhorn-quot-td7284391.html#a7292690
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > >>>>> Von: [email protected]
> > >>>>> [mailto:matterhorn-users- [email protected]] Im
> > >>>>> Auftrag von Carlos Turro Ribalta
> > >>>>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. November 2012 09:40
> > >>>>> An: Matterhorn Users
> > >>>>> Betreff: Re: [Matterhorn-users] About the Annotation Service
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thanks Greg, I'm going to look at your code
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Carlos
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> -----Mensaje original-----
> > >>>>> De: [email protected]
> > >>>>> [mailto:matterhorn-users- [email protected]] En nombre
> > >>>>> de Greg Logan Enviado el: miércoles,
> > >>>>> 07 de noviembre de 2012 23:45
> > >>>>> Para: [email protected]
> > >>>>> Asunto: Re: [Matterhorn-users] About the Annotation Service
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On 12-11-07 12:30 PM, Carlos Turro Ribalta wrote:
> > >>>>>> Hello all,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> As most of you know, UP Valencia has developed the HTML5 Paella
> > >>>>>> Player for
> > >>>>> Opencast Matterhorn [1]. We have just finished up with the bulk
> > >>>>> of having everything OK for this semester recordings and we are
> > >>>>> going to put some effort in adding features to Paella.
> > >>>>>> Our users have asked us to put the annotation service in Paella.
> > >>>>>> Our idea is just
> > >>>>> adding the controls to create and read annotations from the
> > >>>>> Matterhorn 1.4
> > >>>Service.
> > >>>>> I think that some of you are working on that feature for the
> > >>>>> Engage Player, and I don't want to break anything, so I am
> > >>>>> writing this mail to see if there is anything I have to know before 
> > >>>>> going
> on.
> > >>>>>> One issue that I have found is that there are two very
> > >>>>>> different use cases for
> > >>>>> annotations, public annotations in which students create
> > >>>>> annotations, the teacher can validate/delete it and everybody
> > >>>>> can see all annotations from all students and teachers, and
> > >>>>> private annotations, in which a user can only see his
> > >>>>> annotations. As far as I know today only private annotations are
> > >>>>> supported, so we should write some code for public annotations
> > >>>>> or maybe it should be better to have two different
> > >>>services, to have both features.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I believe it's actually the opposite.  While the annotation
> > >>>>> components are mainly the work of the team from Osnabruck, my
> > >>>>> thesis project needed private annotation features so that
> > >>>>> students could choose to make an annotation visible only to 
> > >>>>> themselves.
> > >>>>> The annotation service currently has them all public by default,
> > >>>>> so I added that as
> > >>>part of my project.
> > >>>>> I haven't quite sent that code back to Osnabruck yet for
> > >>>>> inclusion in their work, but it's on my todo list :)
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> My thesis project is up in the MH-8060 branch on the Matterhorn
> > >>>>> SVN server if you want to take a look and see how I implemented
> > >>>>> the private
> > >>>annotation code.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> G
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Comments will be very welcomed
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Carlos Turro
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Head of Media Services
> > >>>>>> Universitat Politècnica de Valencia
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> [1] http://paellaengage.webs.upv.es
> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________
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> > >>>>>> er
> > >>>>>> s
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
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> > >>>--
> > >>>
> > >>>________________________________________________
> > >>>Rüdiger Rolf, M.A.
> > >>>Universität Osnabrück - Zentrum virtUOS Heger-Tor-Wall 12, 49069
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