James - is this the article that you created? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayan_(software)
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 7:31 PM, James Hondo <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks for replying and explaining the reasoning behind your decision. I > hope you reconsider or implement something similar, it would be a shame to > lose our existing structure and start from scratch. > > I was completely unaware of this, all I can say is that I am speechless... > The article I wanted to update has been deleted anyway. Someone else is > trying to create a new one; > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Mayan_EDMS > But > it has been declined twice. I apologize, I didn't knew about any of this. > > ---- > James > > On Tuesday, October 23, 2012 6:31:14 PM UTC-4, Roberto Rosario wrote: >> >> No, the directory structure would not be 'cloned'. I added this to the >> TO DO list for future versions, but I'm a little hesitant to add it, >> because it would just be duplicating the inefficient paradigm of filesystem >> directory trees only on a web interface. This is the reason I created the >> automatic indexing where Mayan creates a hierarchical structure based on >> user defined rules to help users avoid being slaves of a manually updated >> structure as other DMS software do. Is a little work at the beginning >> while you create the rules, but then you don't have to ever worry again >> about documents being placed in the correct hierarchical unit. >> >> It is not an acusasion, is it a document fact: http://news.cnet.com/** >> 8301-1023_3-57514677-93/**corruption-in-wikiland-paid-** >> pr-scandal-erupts-at-**wikipedia/<http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57514677-93/corruption-in-wikiland-paid-pr-scandal-erupts-at-wikipedia/> >> It >> has long been suspected that this was happening, the episode in the link is >> the most documented and alarming as it was done by a very senior Wikipedia >> editor. The editor received payment to edit and favor the page of the >> government of Gibraltar so that it would be featured in Wikipedia's front >> page. An article is lucky to land on the front page, the page of the >> country of Gibraltar landed 17 times, boosting their SEO results sky high. >> What is most disgusting is how the editor involved and others argue that >> getting paid for favorably editing (or dumbing down a competitor's article) >> is not a conflict of interest! >> >> With this information in mind, now read Mayan's previous wikipedia >> article discussion here: http://en.wikipedia.org/** >> wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_**deletion/Mayan_edms<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Mayan_edms> >> It is extensive but you can clearly see how: 1) The article was tagged for >> deletion from the start even when articles are usually moved to an >> 'inactive' (userfied) mode where defenders can keep improving it at >> resubmit it for evaluation again, 2) The criteria for deletion was produced >> out of thin air, 3) The existing articles for commercial DMS software would >> fail that same criteria, 4) The editors were not following Wikipedia's code >> of conduct (accussing new users of being SPA's) , 5) Confused the issue on >> purpose, mixing defense of the article with >> WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS> >> to >> invalidate defense, 6) Editors had no idea what a DMS software is and >> confused it with CMS software; and tell me that it is hard to deny how the >> editors appeared to be personally motivated beyond their duties as editors >> to erradicate Mayan article from Wikipedia. >> >> I'm not trying to be controversial, just answering your argument and >> explaining my desires for not wanting/caring about a Mayan EDMS article on >> Wikipedia. >> >> --Roberto >> >> >> On Tuesday, October 23, 2012 1:44:13 PM UTC-4, James Hondo wrote: >>> >>> We are a small accounting firm and have a Windows server working as >>> fileserver with all of our clients' documents sorted by year, month, >>> activities and such. My question is; Can I import not only the documents, >>> but also their existing directory structure? >>> >>> Wow I don't always agree with the veteran editor's decision but calling >>> them corrupt is a very heavy handed and strong worded accusation. Still I >>> think Mayan is a great piece of software with a great community and worthy >>> of an article in Wikipedia, just something to consider. >>> >>> On Tuesday, October 23, 2012 3:35:11 AM UTC-4, Roberto Rosario wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi James, >>>> >>>> Thanks I apreciate your comments :) >>>> >>>> Check this thread to see if this is more or less what your are >>>> interested in: https://groups.google.com/**forum/?fromgroups=&pli=1#!** >>>> topic/mayan-edms/M_S5ZSVV5U4%**5B1-25%5D<https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=&pli=1#!topic/mayan-edms/M_S5ZSVV5U4%5B1-25%5D> >>>> >>>> As far as I know there are no Mayan EDMS articles on Wikipedia, there >>>> was one try once and the article got deleted by the most ridiculous of >>>> excuses, it became clear that the editors evaluating the article were >>>> seriously biased against Mayan for what I can only think were monetary >>>> reasons. Wikipedia as an idea is great, but the project has fallen from >>>> grace, there are very serious moderation and vandalism issues that are as >>>> old as the project and that they have not been able to address. I don't >>>> have any interest for an article about Mayan on Wikipedia. Sorry if that >>>> sounds bit harsh since you are just offering to help, I just want to save >>>> you the time and effort of building and defending a great article only to >>>> have corrupt editors delete it once you comply with the self serving >>>> objections they will produce. I wholeheartedly thank you for your >>>> interest, but it is not worth your time. >>>> >>>> --Roberto >>>> >>>> >>>> On Monday, October 22, 2012 9:55:58 PM UTC-4, James Hondo wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hello, thanks a lot for releasing your software, it is great! I have >>>>> been looking for something like it for a long time, it does everything I >>>>> needed and then more. One thing I couldn't found on the documentation; >>>>> can >>>>> it automatically mirror the structure of the document directories when >>>>> doing an initial import? Also I noticed the Wikipedia article is missing >>>>> a >>>>> great deal of stuff, I've worked on a few articles myself and would gladly >>>>> help polish Mayan's article if you like. >>>>> >>>>> James >>>>> >>>> -- > > > > -- [email protected] +1 (617) 517-4953 http://twitter.com/natea | http://linkedin.com/in/natea --
