Hi James, No problem, it was just a design philosophy but I'm always very open about adding features requests to the TO DO list. Feel free to open an issue on github.
No need to apologize, at all! :) Like I said, I think the concept behind Wikipedia is great and very important. Knowledge needs to be preserved and can only be accurately preserved in a crowd sourced manner for balance and for scalability. In my opinion, Wikipedia is becoming too important and some of it policies need to mature because they are empowering the wrong people to decide what is and is not worthy of being recorded for future reference. --Roberto On Thursday, October 25, 2012 7:31:28 PM UTC-4, James Hondo wrote: > > Thanks for replying and explaining the reasoning behind your decision. I > hope you reconsider or implement something similar, it would be a shame to > lose our existing structure and start from scratch. > > I was completely unaware of this, all I can say is that I am speechless... > The article I wanted to update has been deleted anyway. Someone else is > trying to create a new one; > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Mayan_EDMS > But > it has been declined twice. I apologize, I didn't knew about any of this. > > ---- > James > > On Tuesday, October 23, 2012 6:31:14 PM UTC-4, Roberto Rosario wrote: >> >> No, the directory structure would not be 'cloned'. I added this to the >> TO DO list for future versions, but I'm a little hesitant to add it, >> because it would just be duplicating the inefficient paradigm of filesystem >> directory trees only on a web interface. This is the reason I created the >> automatic indexing where Mayan creates a hierarchical structure based on >> user defined rules to help users avoid being slaves of a manually updated >> structure as other DMS software do. Is a little work at the beginning >> while you create the rules, but then you don't have to ever worry again >> about documents being placed in the correct hierarchical unit. >> >> It is not an acusasion, is it a document fact: >> http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57514677-93/corruption-in-wikiland-paid-pr-scandal-erupts-at-wikipedia/ >> It >> has long been suspected that this was happening, the episode in the link is >> the most documented and alarming as it was done by a very senior Wikipedia >> editor. The editor received payment to edit and favor the page of the >> government of Gibraltar so that it would be featured in Wikipedia's front >> page. An article is lucky to land on the front page, the page of the >> country of Gibraltar landed 17 times, boosting their SEO results sky high. >> What is most disgusting is how the editor involved and others argue that >> getting paid for favorably editing (or dumbing down a competitor's article) >> is not a conflict of interest! >> >> With this information in mind, now read Mayan's previous wikipedia >> article discussion here: >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Mayan_edms >> It is extensive but you can clearly see how: 1) The article was tagged for >> deletion from the start even when articles are usually moved to an >> 'inactive' (userfied) mode where defenders can keep improving it at >> resubmit it for evaluation again, 2) The criteria for deletion was produced >> out of thin air, 3) The existing articles for commercial DMS software would >> fail that same criteria, 4) The editors were not following Wikipedia's code >> of conduct (accussing new users of being SPA's) , 5) Confused the issue on >> purpose, mixing defense of the article with >> WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS> >> to >> invalidate defense, 6) Editors had no idea what a DMS software is and >> confused it with CMS software; and tell me that it is hard to deny how the >> editors appeared to be personally motivated beyond their duties as editors >> to erradicate Mayan article from Wikipedia. >> >> I'm not trying to be controversial, just answering your argument and >> explaining my desires for not wanting/caring about a Mayan EDMS article on >> Wikipedia. >> >> --Roberto >> >> >> On Tuesday, October 23, 2012 1:44:13 PM UTC-4, James Hondo wrote: >>> >>> We are a small accounting firm and have a Windows server working as >>> fileserver with all of our clients' documents sorted by year, month, >>> activities and such. My question is; Can I import not only the documents, >>> but also their existing directory structure? >>> >>> Wow I don't always agree with the veteran editor's decision but calling >>> them corrupt is a very heavy handed and strong worded accusation. Still I >>> think Mayan is a great piece of software with a great community and worthy >>> of an article in Wikipedia, just something to consider. >>> >>> On Tuesday, October 23, 2012 3:35:11 AM UTC-4, Roberto Rosario wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi James, >>>> >>>> Thanks I apreciate your comments :) >>>> >>>> Check this thread to see if this is more or less what your are >>>> interested in: >>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=&pli=1#!topic/mayan-edms/M_S5ZSVV5U4%5B1-25%5D >>>> >>>> As far as I know there are no Mayan EDMS articles on Wikipedia, there >>>> was one try once and the article got deleted by the most ridiculous of >>>> excuses, it became clear that the editors evaluating the article were >>>> seriously biased against Mayan for what I can only think were monetary >>>> reasons. Wikipedia as an idea is great, but the project has fallen from >>>> grace, there are very serious moderation and vandalism issues that are as >>>> old as the project and that they have not been able to address. I don't >>>> have any interest for an article about Mayan on Wikipedia. Sorry if that >>>> sounds bit harsh since you are just offering to help, I just want to save >>>> you the time and effort of building and defending a great article only to >>>> have corrupt editors delete it once you comply with the self serving >>>> objections they will produce. I wholeheartedly thank you for your >>>> interest, but it is not worth your time. >>>> >>>> --Roberto >>>> >>>> >>>> On Monday, October 22, 2012 9:55:58 PM UTC-4, James Hondo wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hello, thanks a lot for releasing your software, it is great! I have >>>>> been looking for something like it for a long time, it does everything I >>>>> needed and then more. One thing I couldn't found on the documentation; >>>>> can >>>>> it automatically mirror the structure of the document directories when >>>>> doing an initial import? Also I noticed the Wikipedia article is missing >>>>> a >>>>> great deal of stuff, I've worked on a few articles myself and would >>>>> gladly >>>>> help polish Mayan's article if you like. >>>>> >>>>> James >>>>> >>>> --
