Absolutely agree, of course. And see today's NYT article about the 
Rijksmuseum's contribution to the way forward: 
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/29/arts/design/museums-mull-public-use-of-online-art-images.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20130529&_r=0

?We?re a public institution, and so the art and objects we have are, in a way, 
everyone?s property,? said [Taco Dibbits, the director of collections at the 
Rijksmuseum,] in an interview. ??With the Internet, it?s so difficult to 
control your copyright or use of images that we decided we?d rather people use 
a very good high-resolution image of the ?Milkmaid? from the Rijksmuseum rather 
than using a very bad reproduction,? he said, referring to that Vermeer 
painting from around 1660."

David Green
redgen at mac.com
@redgen
203-520-9155 


On May 27, 2013, at 8:46 AM, Kenneth Hamma <khamma at me.com> wrote:

> Thanks, Peter.
> 
> It is dismaying that anyone could not imagine that  there's any way around 
> the wide variety of charges and procedures that collections  - perhaps 
> sometimes thoughtlessly? - interpose between themselves the public for whom 
> they are stewards.  For those, here are some starting points.
> 
> https://images.nga.gov/en/page/show_home_page.html
> 
> http://britishart.yale.edu/collections/using-collections/image-use
> 
> http://www.britishmuseum.org/about_this_site/terms_of_use/free_image_service.aspx
> 
> https://www.lacma.org/about/contact-us/terms-use
> 
> http://thewalters.org/rights-reproductions.aspx
> 
> Knowing that it can be bothersome to visit websites and read, let me copy the 
> simple image rights/use statement from the Walters Art Museum:
> 
> All photography on our website(s) is governed by Creative Commons Licensing 
> and can be used without cost or specific permission. Artworks in the 
> photographs are in the public domain due to age. The photographs of 
> two-dimensional objects have also been released into the public domain. 
> Photographs of three-dimensional objects and all descriptions have been 
> released under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported 
> License and the GNU Free Documentation License.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> ken
> 
> Kenneth Hamma
> 
> Yale Center for British Art
> kenneth.hamma at yale.edu
> 
> 
> 
> On May 27, 2013, at 7:05 AM, Peter B. Hirtle <pbh6 at cornell.edu> wrote:
> 
>> For a different perspective from a different field, MCN-L readers might be 
>> interested in a forthcoming paper from John Overholt addressing the future 
>> of special collections in libraries.  It is called "Five theses on the 
>> future of special collections," and a preprint is found at 
>> http://dash.harvard.edu/bitstream/handle/1/10601790/overholt.pdf.  
>> 
>> One of his five theses speaks precisely to the issue of permissions.  It 
>> begins this way:
>> 
>> The future of special collections is openness.
>> 
>> We are not the creators of our collections; we are their stewards. They were 
>> entrusted to us to preserve them, certainly, but preservation without use is 
>> an empty victory. It ought to be our primary purpose at all times to 
>> minimize barriers to use, so it is all the more shameful when we interpose 
>> such barriers ourselves, not out of concern for the health of the 
>> collections, but out of the misguided belief that we are entitled to 
>> control, even to monetize, their use. When we claim copyright over our 
>> digital collections, or impose permission fees or licensing terms on users, 
>> we are arguably misrepresenting the law, and certainly violating one of the 
>> central ethical tenets of the profession: to promote the free dissemination 
>> of information.
>> 
>> It would seem to me that image permissions would be much simplified if only 
>> permission of the copyright owner had to be secured (and then only if the 
>> use was not a fair use).
>> 
>> Peter Hirtle
>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf
>>> Of Deborah Wythe
>>> Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 3:59 PM
>>> To: mcn-l at mcn.edu
>>> Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Permissions
>>> 
>>> I don't think there's any way around the wide variety of charges and
>>> procedures, but I was struck by the frustration of the writer, who clearly 
>>> had
>>> never done image acquisition before. It's a skill, just like any other. 
>>> Filling in
>>> for our R&R coordinator, I've learned just how many emails it can take to 
>>> get
>>> all the information we need to help them.
>>> 
>>> I've often wondered if there was a way to connect museum staff with art
>>> history grad programs to get this topic on their curriculum. Shouldn't every
>>> budding writer have a brief tutorial on copyright, image acquisition, image
>>> quality, etc?
>>> 
>>> Then again, when I was in grad school and suggested to my advisor that we
>>> put together a guide to doing primary source research, he put me off, saying
>>> that we should all be figuring it out ourselves and that was one way they
>>> sorted the wheat from the chaff.
>>> 
>>> I won't address the differing policies and prices -- that's a different (and
>>> difficult topic) -- but putting chocolate on our fee schedules is an 
>>> interesting
>>> concept.
>>> 
>>> Deborah Wythe
>>> Brooklyn Museumdeborahwythe at hotmail.com
>>> 
>>>> From: lesleyeharris at comcast.net
>>>> Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 12:06:38 -0400
>>>> To: mcn-l at mcn.edu
>>>> Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Permissions
>>>> 
>>>> Whoops--article is at
>>> http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/comment/opinion/opinion-snap-
>>> decisions/2003969.article.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On May 24, 2013, at 12:05 PM, Lesley Ellen Harris
>>> <lesleyeharris at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> This article on obtaining permissions from museums will be of interest to
>>> MCN members.
>>>> 
>>>> Lesley
>>>> 
>>>> lesley at copyrightlaws.com
>>>> www.copyrightlaws.com
>>>> 
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