Thanks so much for this, Nik! I do have your old blog post on hand for these
conversations, as a matter of fact! Thanks for the reminder.
From: mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu] On Behalf Of Nik
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Bridgeman Images question
Good luck… but I agree with Erik.
The more interesting question is, have they actually licensed any of your
public domain images? If they have, please try and find out who and distribute
to this list, I have some “property" they might be interested in…
Marginally more helpful, if you’re still wading through the internal
discussions for this, might be this old post from my time at the Getty which
talks about the process of getting to an open content policy by breaking up the
(numerous) dimensions of what it means for an institution:
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> On Aug 17, 2017, at 1:58 PM, Maggie Hanson <maggie.han...@pam.org> wrote:
> Thanks, Erik -
> We're kind of in-between right now. We're mostly operating with open
> access mindset internally, but we don't yet have official
> language/policies behind it. (We're working on that part . . . )
> Providing Bridgeman with better images might be the best/easiest solution.
> Thanks for your feedback!
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> Of Erik Landsberg
> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 1:50 PM
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> Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Bridgeman Images question
> Hi Maggie,
> Not a lawyer, of course, but many museum have a "no commercial photography"'
> notice in their literature, entrance info displays etc.
> Perhaps that would give you grounds for a takedown notice. Just a thought.
> But if PAM has a fully open access policy, would you consider just providing
> Bridgeman with quality replacement images of those works? It would be a far
> easier solution.
> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 4:35 PM, Maggie Hanson <maggie.han...@pam.org>
>> Hi, all -
>> This question recently came up in our registrars dept. and I thought
>> I'd kick it out to MCN to see if anyone else has encountered this
>> issue and might have guidance. We'd be most grateful for any insight.
>> Our rights specialist sent the following question to a registrars'
>> list-serv and hasn't gotten much of a response:
>> "It has recently come to my attention that Bridgeman Images has been
>> selling images from our museum's collection (about 17 of them). We do
>> not have an agreement with them, and the images are poor quality. I
>> contacted our counsel, and he seemed to state that because everything
>> they have is in the public domain, we have no legal ground to stand
>> on. That said, I think it would be reasonable to contact them and ask
>> them to take the images down, especially since the images are of such
>> poor quality. Has anyone else had this experience?"
>> It might be a non-starter since the underlying works in the images
>> are public domain, but we thought it was worth asking colleagues. Any
>> precedent would be useful. To be clear: this is not about us
>> asserting rights, just about wanting to disseminate better images of
>> the works in our collection (esp. when we'd provide better images for free!).
>> Thanks, all! See you in Pittsburgh!
>> Maggie Hanson
>> Head of Library and Collections Information Portland Art Museum
>> 503-276-4224 | direct
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