From: "Dan Frakes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Legal issues aside, you're wrong about this. People *are* losing money.
> If you record a friend's CD onto an MD, you're getting the album for
> free. Forget about the record company for a minute: the *artist* is
> losing money. The "fine" you keep ranting about is completely irrelevant
> because even when a fee is included in the cost of a MiniDisc, the artist
> whose album you just copied will never see the money. So people *are*
> clearly losing.

No, no, no, no, no.  Nobody is losing any money if I copy a CD that I had
absolutely no intention whatsoever of buying.  If I buy the CD the artist makes
money.  If I copy someone elses the atist makes *no* money.  If I don't copy
someone elses but don't buy the CD myself-- the artist makes *no* money.
So the artist loses nothing.  Thats what I was talking about originally.

> >Congress has done studies that are at worst inconclusive, but
> >more realisticly seem to indicate that casual copying of music
> >helps CD sales rather than hurting it.

I agree with that.
I never for one minute said doing so was legal, just that theres nothing
wrong in my opinion.  It's not impossible that I might, having played my
MD copy a few times decide that I do actually like it enough to buy it (but
honestly, I'd more likely buy a different CD by that artist and return the favor
to my friend :)  I agree with the guy who suggested copying each others
discs may well increase overall sales, instead of buying 1CD and having
1 album, you buy 2 instead and have 4, 6 or however many including the
copies.  In effect, copying makes 'em cheaper so you buy more...  Thats
how I like to justify it to myself anyway.

> As to why other people feel differently than you, I know I personally
> make income from computer software. When people copy it they are stealing
> my hard work. If I made music instead of computer software, the situation
> would be much the same: whenever someone copied my album without paying
> for it, they would be stealing from me and my hard work. It doesn't
> appear that you have ever created a product that is license-based and
> that people can easily copy/pirate/steal. If you had, you might feel
> differently (and I promise none of us would call you an "idiot" ;-) ).

Well I have written software and made money personally from it, not
a lot but enough to make it worth releasing and peeps will doubtless
have hacked through all the protection I put in the registration and other
bits of code.  If they're prepared to go to all that trouble, they obviously
have no intention of buying it, so I haven't lost any money.  Of course I
still hope they'll burn in hell but thats another story :-)

Good to see the old topics still "light up the list"!
PrinceGaz -- "anyone fancy chatting about En..." [joke, guys, Joke!]


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