How can that be done though?  That’s really what I want, but I don’t think that 
is possible unless you re-use the default group names.  If you import a partial 
layout then it will Add the groups you define and they will be locked.  It will 
not remove the default groups called “Play and Explore” and “Life at a Glance”. 
 So my only option would be to reuse those same group names which would 
redefine what is in those groups.  I can’t however remove those silly names and 
use my own groups without doing a full start screen layout and effectively 
locking the entire thing in the process.

Why is it not possible to just remove a group in the layout.xml?  I don’t want 
the silly default group names, but I do want to give them a default starting 
point that makes sense for business.  Does anyone know how to do that?


Brian Klish
Systems Administrator
Morrisville Auxiliary Corporation
Morrisville State College

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Stephen Owen
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 4:52 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MDT-OSD] RE: Windows 10 Custom Start Menu & InPlaceUpgrade

The way we attacked this for our customer was to import the layout for the 
default user, then allow the users to do to the layout what they wished.



On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Klish, Brian 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Yes Jeff, but I’m not sure that fully satisfies the customization request.  
Yesterday I was looking in to this and you have two options per 
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/itpro/windows/manage/customize-and-export-start-layout.
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When a full Start layout is applied, the users cannot pin, unpin, or uninstall 
apps from Start. Users can view and open all apps in the All Apps view, but 
they cannot pin any apps to Start.

When a partial Start 
layout<https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/itpro/windows/manage/customize-and-export-start-layout#configure-a-partial-start-layout>
 is applied, the contents of the specified tile groups cannot be changed, but 
users can move those groups, and can also create and customize their own groups.

________________________________
So if the request is that users can customize their start menu then it doesn’t 
sound like that’s 100% possible, but it’s partially possible.  A partial Start 
layout definition would allow them to customize the parts you did not define if 
I understand it correctly.  The parts you define would be locked in by the 
sound of it.  I have not done this yet myself.



Brian Klish
Systems Administrator
Morrisville Auxiliary Corporation
Morrisville State College

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] 
On Behalf Of Jerousek, Jeff
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 11:05 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [MDT-OSD] RE: Windows 10 Custom Start Menu & InPlaceUpgrade

You can use the PowerShell command to deploy a customized start menu .xml 
before the user logs on again for the first time after the upgrade.

Import-StartLayout -LayoutPath .\ Win10.xml -MountPath C:\

Thanks,
Jeff Jerousek<mailto:[email protected]>


From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Trond Karstensen
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 5:20 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [MDT-OSD] Windows 10 Custom Start Menu & InPlaceUpgrade

Hi.

On Windows 10 projects we are usually deploying a customized Windows 10 Start 
Menu when deploying new computers.
This works very well for new computers (using dism and importing the xml file).

Is there a way to apply a custom start menu when doing in-place-upgrade ?
By using dism it will only apply the custom start menu to new profiles, so not 
very useful when profiles are migrated by the migration process.
I know you can enforce a start menu by Group Policy, but then users will not be 
able to customize the start menu so that is not a good option.

Regards
Trond


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