But that is exactly what I meant (sorry if I was oblique). In this case the business is not based on selling the code. Therefore there are no downsides to open-sourcing the code, and many tangible advantages, not only altruism. B.
On 18-Jan-10, at 2:22 PM, [email protected] wrote: > Boris Steipe wrote: >> In my area of work (bioinformatics) I have not seen convincing >> business models that were based on charging for code. Integration, >> customization, consulting - yes, it needs a lot of expertise to get >> that right and people are willing to pay for that expertise. >> Contributing to the open-source pool advertises your organization's >> capacity to understand real-world issues and address them in a viable >> way. >> $0.02 - B. >> > Boris, I am not thinking about charging for code. There must be a > barrier between Open Source and SAAS. But this barrier does not > need to > be charging money. > > For developers your argument is correct. I am not a developer. I am an > architect who design the software and the developer programs it. The > developer get paid for his work. It is my ownership, my (Open Source) > copyright. > > On details I am not the best person to go to. If there is a bug the > developer can solve it better. But for the big architecture I am > the one > who does the design. And if I am not there the work can continue for a > few months and then its stuck. > > So as a business model this does not work for me. > > With regards Bernard > >> >> >> On 18-Jan-10, at 1:21 PM, [email protected] wrote: >> >> >>> Boris Steipe wrote: >>> >>>> Also: in the information-based economy, an increasingly important >>>> part of the revenue of your activities is "mind-share". No >>>> better way >>>> to demonstrate your expertise to the world than to contribute >>>> something useful. >>>> B. >>>> >>>> >>> Boris. Thanks. That is indeed a good argument. But then I must be >>> able >>> to show that my expertise is indeed my expertise. My company is >>> Wikiation. The bundle extensions is named Wikibox Blue. The >>> copyright is >>> and should stay mine!. That is. It can be GPL or an other Open >>> Source >>> license what I chose. If I should loose that then I should loose >>> everything. I lost exclusive ownership of the software and I >>> loose to >>> demonstrate my expertise. >>> >>> Regards, Bernard >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 18-Jan-10, at 11:46 AM, Robert Cummings wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi Bernard, >>>>> >>>>> By open-sourcing your work the community gains from your work; >>>>> however, >>>>> this generally forms a positive reciprocity loop whereby the >>>>> community >>>>> will feed back into your contributions with their own >>>>> enhancements, >>>>> ideas, and bug fixes from which you will then benefit. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Rob. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> We have build many extensions to improve the functionality of >>>>>> MediaWiki. >>>>>> It is for >>>>>> Enterprise use as Knowledge management infrastructure. The >>>>>> name of >>>>>> the >>>>>> extensions and additional >>>>>> functionality is Wikibox Blue. The software is propriety. >>>>>> >>>>>> It can be hosted as SAAS >>>>>> >>>>>> Today there has been a request if automatic signing of thread is >>>>>> possible in the discussion page. >>>>>> This is standard functionality in WikiForum. Which can be used >>>>>> in the >>>>>> talk namespace. >>>>>> >>>>>> But it is propriety software. So it can not be used. >>>>>> >>>>>> My question is here : Please convince me I have to make my >>>>>> propriety >>>>>> software open source. >>>>>> >>>>>> With some conditions : >>>>>> *I decide if I make Wikibox Blue Open source >>>>>> *I decide when Wikibox Blue will be Open source >>>>>> *I decide on which conditions Wikibox Blue will be open source. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you respect these conditions please try to convince me I >>>>>> should do >>>>>> it. 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