Hi Rich, I agree that being able to use an image-as-map makes a lot of sense, and it surprised me how little usage it got when it was still a feature, and how little discussion it got afterward. Nonetheless, that's how it went.
Whatever the benefits or drawbacks of another extension coming in and providing this functionality, I doubt it'll happen, given the track record. :) It actually would be fairly easy to add this feature back in, I think... you would just need to add a parameter like "image layer=" to the relevant tags in Page Forms, Cargo and/or Maps (ideally all three), which would use the functionality that already exists in OpenLayers and Leaflet. It might not take more than a few hours, actually, depending on how complicated the APIs are. But this looks pretty simple, for example: https://openlayers.org/en/latest/examples/static-image.html So who knows, maybe your request would be enough to kickstart this feature. Unrelated to that, it's also great that you're interested in the business process management stuff I mentioned on the mailing list before. I'm still very interested in adding functionality for that, but we'll see how it goes. Thanks! -Yaron On Sat, Jun 8, 2019 at 9:05 AM Evans, Richard K. (GRC-H000) < [email protected]> wrote: > Hi Yaron, thanks for responding and great insights as usual. These are > times I wish I had more programming experience.. I’d enthusiastically take > on the task of bringing points data entry and query back to page forms. For > us Enterprise MW users I would argue that this feature is essential in > every enterprise application whether people know it or not, ha ha.. Being > able to quickly graphically annotate an image of parking lot or an exit > plan or a Road closure .. These are Basic enterprise applications. > > I would think you would want to recover this capability in page Foms just > to keep all such data collection under one extension. Otherwise some lesser > extension will come along and try to do it. > > If you do decide to include this in page forms, do you have any thoughts > on How many hours of effort to implement? > > I’m not sure which I’m more excited about, the prospect of internal maps > added to page forms or the project management extension that you mentioned > not too long ago. Please don’t ever underestimate your contribution to the > enterprise world. It’s amazing. You really have done and continue to do > great work. > > > > ------------------------------ > On: 07 June 2019 18:03, "Yaron Koren" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Rich, > > It should be noted that the use of images as maps comprises two parts: > entering the data, and viewing the data. I don't believe either one is > currently possible, though I could be wrong. For data entry, I think the > easiest way to add support for it would be to modify either the > "openlayers" or "leaflet" input types in Page Forms to allow for using an > uploaded image as the map - both OpenLayers and Leaflet inherently allow > for such a thing. And for viewing the data - Semantic MediaWiki has a > "leaflet" result format (via the Maps extension), while Cargo has an > "openlayers" format. Both could similarly be modified to allow for > displaying query results on an uploaded image. > > It should be noted that, about ten years ago, both entry and viewing of > image-based maps were possible, via the extensions then called Semantic > Maps and Semantic Forms. This is one of those features that just stopped > being supported, due I guess to lack of interest. Which is too bad, because > it does seem useful for a lot of different applications. But it never > really got usage before. Maybe now is a good time to bring this feature > back, if enough people show an interest in it. > > I should also note that there's an extension called Semantic Image > Annotator: > > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Image_Annotator > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.mediawiki.org_wiki_Extension-3ASemantic-5FImage-5FAnnotator&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=G9_ckDiL3_82h-sM2b4fJWlZTAo_Yuq6pGF4tYl-mVc&s=egpiK3-6Rd5BIHLcRDv9289t0b1zeob3n51FOs1Rgic&e=> > > It lets you both add and query data, but the data it deals with is > rectangles on an image and not points, so it may not be what you're looking > for. Maybe it's fine, though. > > -Yaron > > On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 12:08 PM Evans, Richard K. (GRC-H000) via > Semediawiki-user <semediawiki- <[email protected]> > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Happy Friday - What extension is best for annotating interior floor plans >> and user maps uploaded as images? >> >> Is anyone doing this? What do people here recommend? >> >> I've been trying to learn how to use the "Maps" extension [1] but it's >> not clear to me if custom interior maps are possible with Maps. >> >> OpenLayers [2] and Cargo [3] look promising but I don't know how to get >> started with them for custom interior maps. I dive in and learn it if I >> knew upfront that they had the capability. Can anyone tell me what they're >> doing? >> >> /Rich >> >> [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Maps >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.mediawiki.org_wiki_Extension-3AMaps&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=G9_ckDiL3_82h-sM2b4fJWlZTAo_Yuq6pGF4tYl-mVc&s=YDLnrlnpCaTM4xDwkcCP-w6JOWSsfSNenhsdT9r4l18&e=> >> [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:OpenLayers >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.mediawiki.org_wiki_Extension-3AOpenLayers&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=G9_ckDiL3_82h-sM2b4fJWlZTAo_Yuq6pGF4tYl-mVc&s=7WnewyAkuyVl-Xycjou9OLsteP0GC2eIXpRokqF3ivA&e=> >> [3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cargo >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.mediawiki.org_wiki_Extension-3ACargo&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=G9_ckDiL3_82h-sM2b4fJWlZTAo_Yuq6pGF4tYl-mVc&s=9nWDknMI3lXeGHYGN9lzBe4PgkZ9AZpZeUgPxwmnfz8&e=> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Semediawiki-user mailing list >> Semediawiki- <[email protected]>[email protected] >> forge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-user >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.sourceforge.net_lists_listinfo_semediawiki-2Duser&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=G9_ckDiL3_82h-sM2b4fJWlZTAo_Yuq6pGF4tYl-mVc&s=rAQpulMuhw95VvuKwRLyaC1ogKZz3cBBFj7gwgLAl4Y&e=> >> > > > -- > WikiWorks · MediaWiki Consulting · http://wikiworks.com > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__wikiworks.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=G9_ckDiL3_82h-sM2b4fJWlZTAo_Yuq6pGF4tYl-mVc&s=zZUSGM6frhVWi2v8NIHyWRuiigT-ZrSaqTn-cbauuHQ&e=> > > -- WikiWorks · MediaWiki Consulting · http://wikiworks.com _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list To unsubscribe, go to: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
