Hi Yaron, Question #1:On the current version of the “Maps” extension for MW 1.31 (v6.0.3), the bottom right option in the “MapEditor” Special Page is “Add Image Overlay”. Is this a remnant of the lost feature that would facilitate custom maps? .. Or does this still function in some other way that I am misunderstanding?
Question #1: Also, I’d like to propose a quick collaboration. I have a very capable programmer that I can have work on this for us, but they aren’t readily familiar with the mediawiki extensions model. If I were to get them setup in github and create a fork of the Maps or Page Forms, or Cargo extension and able to perform pull-requests.. would you have time to answer their questions and tell them how you’d like to see the feature re-implemented? Maybe we can make quick work of this together? And I’d be happy to update the extension manual when done. Thoughts? /Rich From: Yaron Koren [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2019 8:36 AM To: Evans, Richard K. (GRC-H000) <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected]; MediaWiki announcements and site admin list <[email protected]> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Semediawiki-user] interior maps extension Hi Rich, I agree that being able to use an image-as-map makes a lot of sense, and it surprised me how little usage it got when it was still a feature, and how little discussion it got afterward. Nonetheless, that's how it went. Whatever the benefits or drawbacks of another extension coming in and providing this functionality, I doubt it'll happen, given the track record. :) It actually would be fairly easy to add this feature back in, I think... you would just need to add a parameter like "image layer=" to the relevant tags in Page Forms, Cargo and/or Maps (ideally all three), which would use the functionality that already exists in OpenLayers and Leaflet. It might not take more than a few hours, actually, depending on how complicated the APIs are. But this looks pretty simple, for example: https://openlayers.org/en/latest/examples/static-image.html<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__openlayers.org_en_latest_examples_static-2Dimage.html&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=rs7XEEBYqvQ_gDzZxSfzlAHsQ5eg3Uj9cOaqyC3ddRs&s=oXBOcx7GFRpVtIz2rvAc5u7-zMiHfJLX0ypV1alRDuo&e=> So who knows, maybe your request would be enough to kickstart this feature. Unrelated to that, it's also great that you're interested in the business process management stuff I mentioned on the mailing list before. I'm still very interested in adding functionality for that, but we'll see how it goes. Thanks! -Yaron On Sat, Jun 8, 2019 at 9:05 AM Evans, Richard K. (GRC-H000) <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hi Yaron, thanks for responding and great insights as usual. These are times I wish I had more programming experience.. I’d enthusiastically take on the task of bringing points data entry and query back to page forms. For us Enterprise MW users I would argue that this feature is essential in every enterprise application whether people know it or not, ha ha.. Being able to quickly graphically annotate an image of parking lot or an exit plan or a Road closure .. These are Basic enterprise applications. I would think you would want to recover this capability in page Foms just to keep all such data collection under one extension. Otherwise some lesser extension will come along and try to do it. If you do decide to include this in page forms, do you have any thoughts on How many hours of effort to implement? I’m not sure which I’m more excited about, the prospect of internal maps added to page forms or the project management extension that you mentioned not too long ago. Please don’t ever underestimate your contribution to the enterprise world. It’s amazing. You really have done and continue to do great work. ________________________________ On: 07 June 2019 18:03, "Yaron Koren" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hi Rich, It should be noted that the use of images as maps comprises two parts: entering the data, and viewing the data. I don't believe either one is currently possible, though I could be wrong. For data entry, I think the easiest way to add support for it would be to modify either the "openlayers" or "leaflet" input types in Page Forms to allow for using an uploaded image as the map - both OpenLayers and Leaflet inherently allow for such a thing. And for viewing the data - Semantic MediaWiki has a "leaflet" result format (via the Maps extension), while Cargo has an "openlayers" format. Both could similarly be modified to allow for displaying query results on an uploaded image. It should be noted that, about ten years ago, both entry and viewing of image-based maps were possible, via the extensions then called Semantic Maps and Semantic Forms. This is one of those features that just stopped being supported, due I guess to lack of interest. Which is too bad, because it does seem useful for a lot of different applications. But it never really got usage before. Maybe now is a good time to bring this feature back, if enough people show an interest in it. I should also note that there's an extension called Semantic Image Annotator: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Image_Annotator<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.mediawiki.org_wiki_Extension-3ASemantic-5FImage-5FAnnotator&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=G9_ckDiL3_82h-sM2b4fJWlZTAo_Yuq6pGF4tYl-mVc&s=egpiK3-6Rd5BIHLcRDv9289t0b1zeob3n51FOs1Rgic&e=> It lets you both add and query data, but the data it deals with is rectangles on an image and not points, so it may not be what you're looking for. Maybe it's fine, though. -Yaron On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 12:08 PM Evans, Richard K. (GRC-H000) via Semediawiki-user <semediawiki-<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>forge.net<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__forge.net&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=rs7XEEBYqvQ_gDzZxSfzlAHsQ5eg3Uj9cOaqyC3ddRs&s=E7rwOIeMLtwtzXCc4z2p-qCPhcaSD_jppzYRYCRiOyw&e=>> wrote: Happy Friday - What extension is best for annotating interior floor plans and user maps uploaded as images? Is anyone doing this? What do people here recommend? I've been trying to learn how to use the "Maps" extension [1] but it's not clear to me if custom interior maps are possible with Maps. OpenLayers [2] and Cargo [3] look promising but I don't know how to get started with them for custom interior maps. I dive in and learn it if I knew upfront that they had the capability. Can anyone tell me what they're doing? /Rich [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Maps<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.mediawiki.org_wiki_Extension-3AMaps&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=G9_ckDiL3_82h-sM2b4fJWlZTAo_Yuq6pGF4tYl-mVc&s=YDLnrlnpCaTM4xDwkcCP-w6JOWSsfSNenhsdT9r4l18&e=> [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:OpenLayers<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.mediawiki.org_wiki_Extension-3AOpenLayers&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=G9_ckDiL3_82h-sM2b4fJWlZTAo_Yuq6pGF4tYl-mVc&s=7WnewyAkuyVl-Xycjou9OLsteP0GC2eIXpRokqF3ivA&e=> [3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cargo<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.mediawiki.org_wiki_Extension-3ACargo&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=G9_ckDiL3_82h-sM2b4fJWlZTAo_Yuq6pGF4tYl-mVc&s=9nWDknMI3lXeGHYGN9lzBe4PgkZ9AZpZeUgPxwmnfz8&e=> _______________________________________________ Semediawiki-user mailing list Semediawiki-<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>forge.net<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__forge.net&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=rs7XEEBYqvQ_gDzZxSfzlAHsQ5eg3Uj9cOaqyC3ddRs&s=E7rwOIeMLtwtzXCc4z2p-qCPhcaSD_jppzYRYCRiOyw&e=> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-user<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.sourceforge.net_lists_listinfo_semediawiki-2Duser&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=G9_ckDiL3_82h-sM2b4fJWlZTAo_Yuq6pGF4tYl-mVc&s=rAQpulMuhw95VvuKwRLyaC1ogKZz3cBBFj7gwgLAl4Y&e=> -- WikiWorks · MediaWiki Consulting · http://wikiworks.com<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__wikiworks.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=G9_ckDiL3_82h-sM2b4fJWlZTAo_Yuq6pGF4tYl-mVc&s=zZUSGM6frhVWi2v8NIHyWRuiigT-ZrSaqTn-cbauuHQ&e=> -- WikiWorks · MediaWiki Consulting · http://wikiworks.com<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__wikiworks.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=rs7XEEBYqvQ_gDzZxSfzlAHsQ5eg3Uj9cOaqyC3ddRs&s=3eHbhPb5S4ggcXVvwuvFDEu5N6MtiZV9KnS9oV-4k9k&e=> _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list To unsubscribe, go to: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
