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thanks Terry,
we have found that if we don't delete the previous run we avoid the problem of 
not having interaction checking during the two day run process. I still am 
wondering why these run times are so long as compared to FDB.

Ron

-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Crissman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 11:55 AM
To: McBride, Ronald
Subject: RE: [MEDITECH-L] Micromedex vs First DataBank


Ron,

I'm not sure if our interaction checking is disabled after the run is deleted.  
I would not think this would delete interaction checking because the generic 
codes,etc should remain attached to your drugs.  Meditech has been looking at 
the length of time it takes to process the Micromedex files for 6 months or 
longer...before the 5.4 downgrade :), it only took about 12 hours to process a 
run.

Terry

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From: McBride, Ronald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:52 PM
To: Terry Crissman
Cc: Meditech L (E-mail)
Subject: RE: [MEDITECH-L] Micromedex vs First DataBank


thanks Terry, Wow, I was thinking that our run time seemed very long..... have 
you had problems with interaction checking not working when you delete the last 
run. When are you deleting it? Only after a successful file , I would 
imagine.... I don't know that we have had this problem with the 
monographs.........
I will check

Ron

-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Crissman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 11:47 AM
To: McBride, Ronald
Subject: RE: [MEDITECH-L] Micromedex vs First DataBank


Ron,

Perhaps there are more issues that I'm aware of.  The allergy checking seems to 
work well with Micromedex for us while I've seen complaints on the list about 
FDB not screening well.   Within the last few weeks we've sent numerous dose 
range corrections/suggestions to Micromedex for editing.  Micromedex has been 
responsive in editing those where we have shown good documentation.   I think 
the dose/range feature has/is problematic for all vendors.  We recently 
submitted a request to Micromedex because of the lack of a therapeutic dup 
alert for a COX2 and Naproxen.  Micromedex suggested we had some flag set in 
Meditech blocking this, which isn't the case at all.  I asked them to look at 
it gain.

It takes our system about 36 to 48 hours to process a "run" which sure seems 
like a long time and if something interrupts the process, we get to start all 
over again (power flicker, etc).  If I don't delete the last run, our 
Monographs don't populate the data fields and we can't print them.  That is why 
I always delete the previous run.


Terry

-----Original Message-----
From: McBride, Ronald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 11:26 AM
To: Terry Crissman
Cc: Schmoll, Lois; Darger, Dana
Subject: RE: [MEDITECH-L] Micromedex vs First DataBank


Hi Terry,
We have a number of issues, the most critical are:

One of the problems was because of a buffer overflow that occurred while 
loading file 42 of the 53 files into the system. We did not get any warning or 
any indication that the upload did not complete properly nor do we have any way 
to determine if all the files uploaded successfully. I believe that we have a 
DTS now that has fixed this.

We have had issues with duplicates not flagging and interaction checking on 
IV's not working.

The recommended updating process of Micromedex from Meditech leaves the Pharmacy
without interaction checking for the majority of the  hours it takes to upload 
and file . Meditech recommends deleting the old run as the first step to the 
formulary upload process and it should not affect interaction checking. The 
fact is that it indeed does leave the pharmacy without interaction checking. We 
have changed this process so they are without interaction checking only for a 
brief period by never deleting the run files.  

Do you have any of the above issues??

thanks,

Ron McBride RN
Clinical Analyst
Meditech Workgroup

Rapid City Regional Hospital
353 Fairmont Blvd
Rapid City, SD 57701

Phone: 605-719-8032
     Fax: 605-719-4693
  Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]




-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Crissman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 9:10 AM
To: McBride, Ronald
Subject: RE: [MEDITECH-L] Micromedex vs First DataBank


Ron,

We are Magic Meditech 5.5 and have Micromedex/Ultimedex.  Can you mention what 
your issues are?  We're having a few with erroneous dose range alerts.

Terry

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Hello,
We are Magic 5.4.2 and are looking at switching from Micromedex to some other 
Formulary service such as First DataBank. 
Is there anyone out there using First Databank? I would be interested to know 
what your experience has been. We have had a number of issues with Micromedex.

any help would be appreciated.

thanks,

Ron McBride RN
Clinical Analyst
Meditech Workgroup

Rapid City Regional Hospital
353 Fairmont Blvd
Rapid City, SD 57701

Phone: 605-719-8032
     Fax: 605-719-4693
  Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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