Hello,

Nobody has W3C into account? (even when they are getting input from
Nokia, BONDI, operators, browser developers,...)

http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/

That's the way!

2010/4/18 Nils Faerber <[email protected]>:
> Rogers, Rick schrieb:
>> Nils,
> Hi Rick!
>
>> BONDI, JIL and WAC (add
>> http://www.wholesaleappcommunity.com/docs/whitepaper.pdf to your list)
>
> Ah, didn't know JIl and WAC yet, thanks ;)
>
>> all converge around web applications written to HTML5, with extensions
>> to support handset features that are beyond HTML5. I don't know of
>> anyone working on BONDI for MeeGo, but would be very interested in
>> learning anything you come across. I think you're right, it wouldn't be
>> that hard - maybe WAC is the place to focus moving forward?  I know the
>
> I had a brief look at all three again, I started with WAC and stumbled
> accross an issue - I think... the governance. So I checked that again
> with all three.
>
> What I do not like about WAC is that it is 100% operator focussed and
> the name of the project makes IMHO their intention pretty clear
> "Wholesale Application" - they are only interested in creating a broad
> application market.
>
> While this is of course one of the valid goals it should not be the only
> one. As a developer I miss the "level of invention" here. The governance
> of WAC though suggests that selling applications is *the* driving factor
> for the project and to the few major players in it: There are a few core
> operators that build the board of directors and new (operator) members
> can only get a non-voting visitor seat in the board. No mention of other
> possibly parties (like vendors or makers) and especially not mention of
> third party developers e.g. from the open source.
>
> This sounds pretty limited - sounds like a pretty narrow minded club to
> me so I would personally not like to pursue that road. Also from
> technology standpoint it seems to me that they are only up to taking up
> existing bits and specify a (sub-)set they want to support in WAC. It
> does not seem that they want to actually do much own development.
>
> JIL is similar, only members are China Mobile, SoftBank Mobile, Verizon
> Wireless, and Vodafone, 100% operator driven again. But they are up to
> do own development and want to provide an SDK - well...
>
> In contrast to those two OMTP is a quite larger organisation, current
> OMTP members:
> http://www.omtp.org/Membership.aspx
> and Bondi seems to be pretty open, it is Apache licensed and announced
> as an open source project which at least suggests that open source
> developers can take some part in it.
>
> I should probably note that I am not affiliated with OMTP nor Bondi ;)
>
>> folks at Aplix and ACCESS were involved with the OMTP reference
>> implementation of BONDI.
>
> Yes, since they are LiMo foundation members (as is Wind River) and LiMo
> seems to go away from native applications towards Web2.0 someone had to
> do the job ;)
>
>> Rick Rogers
>> Wind River
> Cheers
>  nils
>
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