Well, I think that W3C is more than HTML5, at least the Device APIs Working Group is more focused on device and APIs, not in HTML5
2010/4/19 Rogers, Rick <[email protected]>: > HTML5 = W3C in this context > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente > Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 2:06 PM > To: meego-dev > Subject: Re: [MeeGo-dev] OMTP Bondi - any plans yet? > > Hello, > > Nobody has W3C into account? (even when they are getting input from Nokia, > BONDI, operators, browser developers,...) > > http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/ > > That's the way! > > 2010/4/18 Nils Faerber <[email protected]>: >> Rogers, Rick schrieb: >>> Nils, >> Hi Rick! >> >>> BONDI, JIL and WAC (add >>> http://www.wholesaleappcommunity.com/docs/whitepaper.pdf to your >>> list) >> >> Ah, didn't know JIl and WAC yet, thanks ;) >> >>> all converge around web applications written to HTML5, with >>> extensions to support handset features that are beyond HTML5. I don't >>> know of anyone working on BONDI for MeeGo, but would be very >>> interested in learning anything you come across. I think you're >>> right, it wouldn't be that hard - maybe WAC is the place to focus >>> moving forward? I know the >> >> I had a brief look at all three again, I started with WAC and stumbled >> accross an issue - I think... the governance. So I checked that again >> with all three. >> >> What I do not like about WAC is that it is 100% operator focussed and >> the name of the project makes IMHO their intention pretty clear >> "Wholesale Application" - they are only interested in creating a broad >> application market. >> >> While this is of course one of the valid goals it should not be the >> only one. As a developer I miss the "level of invention" here. The >> governance of WAC though suggests that selling applications is *the* >> driving factor for the project and to the few major players in it: >> There are a few core operators that build the board of directors and >> new (operator) members can only get a non-voting visitor seat in the >> board. No mention of other possibly parties (like vendors or makers) >> and especially not mention of third party developers e.g. from the open >> source. >> >> This sounds pretty limited - sounds like a pretty narrow minded club >> to me so I would personally not like to pursue that road. Also from >> technology standpoint it seems to me that they are only up to taking >> up existing bits and specify a (sub-)set they want to support in WAC. >> It does not seem that they want to actually do much own development. >> >> JIL is similar, only members are China Mobile, SoftBank Mobile, >> Verizon Wireless, and Vodafone, 100% operator driven again. But they >> are up to do own development and want to provide an SDK - well... >> >> In contrast to those two OMTP is a quite larger organisation, current >> OMTP members: >> http://www.omtp.org/Membership.aspx >> and Bondi seems to be pretty open, it is Apache licensed and announced >> as an open source project which at least suggests that open source >> developers can take some part in it. >> >> I should probably note that I am not affiliated with OMTP nor Bondi ;) >> >>> folks at Aplix and ACCESS were involved with the OMTP reference >>> implementation of BONDI. >> >> Yes, since they are LiMo foundation members (as is Wind River) and >> LiMo seems to go away from native applications towards Web2.0 someone >> had to do the job ;) >> >>> Rick Rogers >>> Wind River >> Cheers >> nils >> >> -- >> kernel concepts GbR Tel: +49-271-771091-12 Sieghuetter Hauptweg >> 48 Fax: +49-271-771091-19 >> D-57072 Siegen Mob: +49-176-21024535 >> http://www.kernelconcepts.de >> _______________________________________________ >> MeeGo-dev mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-dev >> > > > > -- > J. Manrique López de la Fuente > http://www.jsmanrique.es > _______________________________________________ > MeeGo-dev mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-dev > -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.es _______________________________________________ MeeGo-dev mailing list [email protected] http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-dev
